[epsi-coord] epsi site

Jonathan Gray jonathan.gray at okfn.org
Thu Jun 23 09:58:30 BST 2011


(A = versie2front.png, B = Versie-R1frontlogged.png, C = versie2content.png)

Think B looks best - nice header, etc. But ideally with content boxes
formatted as in A. Also could possibly experiment with two side bars
in B coloured blue as in A but header and footer still white? For
better or worse the blue bits make the site feel more 'European'.

J.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks guys,
> @Katleen, yes I also thought the readability of the blue page is better than
> the white one. Not sure where the difference is, will discuss with the
> designer (meeting him later today)
>
> @Tom the link section at the bottom is the same as can be navigated from the
> top menu and connected drop downs. As it is at whitehouse.gov, it merely
> provides an additional navigational tool.
> Yes oauth login etc will be supported.
> Comments: we'll use DisQus inside the site.
> Good point on groups visibility and RSS.
> best,
> Ton
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>
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>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Tom Kronenburg <tom.kronenburg at zenc.nl>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Frontpage,
>> like white much better then blue. I am a bit concerned with the footer,
>> too much, but also too low (you have to scroll to much - presumably - to get
>> there).
>> I like the freshness of the white design.
>> Content page:
>> Bit concerned still with the commenting feature, doesn't look at all
>> cool... way too old-fashioned.
>> Also, where are we going to show the 'groups' of people that are concerned
>> with a certain topic, or the tags?
>> I take it, we're going to allow people to be logging in with Oauth /
>> twitter / facebook connect etc?
>> links to rss feeds should be present somewhere...
>> I'll think about some more stuff later.
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Kronenburg
>>
>> Zenc | Focus op oplossingen
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>> www.zenc.nl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 23 jun 2011, om 09:36 heeft Ton Zijlstra het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> HI all,
>> I haven't heard new feedback from you guys on the next iteration of the
>> design (as attached).
>> Myself I like the white one much better than the dark blue dominated one:
>> makes it lighter and less boring (more depth in the design as well).
>> If you have any feedback, please let me know, so I can take the next step
>> with the designer.
>> At epsi.reinvented.net I have started to build a mock-up of the site.
>> Nothing much to see there yet, but it is where I will be working on the
>> wireframes / put the site in scaffolds, and where I'll play with adding the
>> design later.
>> best,
>> Ton
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>> Ton Zijlstra
>>
>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
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>>
>> http://zylstra.org/blog
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>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just received some new sketches for the epsiplatform. As previously
>>> feedback is appreciated.
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> Interdependent Thoughts
>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>>
>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>>> +31-6-34489360
>>>
>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 2011/6/6
>>> Subject: Re: epsi site
>>> To: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoi Ton,
>>>
>>> Hierbij de nieuwe revisie van het ontwerp, ik heb zoveel mogelijk van de
>>> adviezen mee genomen en ook een voorstel gemaakt voor een content pagina.
>>>
>>> Als extra heb ik ook een voorpagina toegevoegd die wat lichter is qua
>>> kleurgebruik om de discussie levendig te houden en als een soort second
>>> opinion te gebruiken.
>>>
>>> De submenu's bovenaan zullen via mouseclick geladen worden. Dus als je in
>>> de menubalk op bijvoorbeeld "Examples" klikt zullen daaronder de subkopjes
>>> "Good Practice","Cases" etc er onder verschijnen.
>>>
>>> Groeten,
>>> Heinze
>>>
>>> On 29 May 2011 16:22, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hoi Heinze,
>>>> Ik heb wat feedback verzameld:
>>>>
>>>> Some comments on the draft design/navigation/structure, for what it is
>>>> worth:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.       I find the colours a bit dull, a bit more marine blue?
>>>>
>>>> 2.       I find it too much text, which will be the consequence of
>>>> putting the blog there
>>>>
>>>> 3.       I find the welcome to the EPSI site too prominent and too much
>>>> text
>>>>
>>>> 4.       I find the top row rather dull
>>>>
>>>> 5.       We have lots of content, would it be possible to mark the # of
>>>> docs under the respective button or something similar?
>>>>
>>>> 6.       I like the fact that are pics, but would I would like more,
>>>> especially where it concerns events on PSI. Would it be possible to somehow
>>>> lure people to a spot where pics can be seen?
>>>>
>>>> 7.       I guess there will be drop down menus under the second row
>>>> buttons? If so, couldn’t that be done in a more Apple way?
>>>>
>>>> 8.        Can you work with icons, like flags for news on countries (+EU
>>>> for EC news)?
>>>>
>>>> 9.       The same applies to type of news: e.g. legal – scales,
>>>> technical – a lamp, economic – stack of money, open data – nerd, research –
>>>> Einstein, hot news – pepper etc. Would it be possible to list news items in
>>>> a kind of nu.nl way?
>>>>
>>>> 10.   I would also like a European map that will mouse sensitive and
>>>> will magnify, allowing to click on countries, so you get the news items,
>>>> reports, cases in there
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, I was wondering whether there will be subpages and how they will
>>>> look like. In other words, is there an overall structure already?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope this is of some help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reg. M.
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I do like the first sketch. I agree with some of  Marc's point, e.g.
>>>>
>>>> - too much text
>>>>
>>>> - I also like the idea of icons to visually identify types of content
>>>> (category, country?)
>>>>
>>>> - on the events section I clearly miss something that immediately shows
>>>> me the date of the items or even an overview (calendar)
>>>>
>>>> - for news and events I miss a "subscribe to feed / ical"
>>>>
>>>> - the 3 categories at the bottom, e.g. "good practice, psi report and
>>>> cases" will not get a lot of attention there. We might include them between
>>>> guest blog and news & events section in a raw with 3 columns?
>>>>
>>>> As Ton and Marc I am curious about the subpages e.g. "content" -pages.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> Mijn eigen feedback gaat eigenlijk in gelijksoortige richting:
>>>>
>>>> nog een hoop tekst, is er ergens plek om bijvoorbeeld een selectie
>>>> foto's in te tonen. Vooral het massieve blauw er omheen maakt het 'dicht' en
>>>> saai volgens mij. Is er een derde kleur denkbaar als accent die het
>>>> sprankelender maakt. Of een kleuren palet wat past qua kleur bij het logo,
>>>> maar er wel duidelijk van afwijkt, en er meer complementair aan is?
>>>>
>>>> De feedback die over content structuur gaat hoef je natuurlijk niet mee
>>>> te nemen uit bovenstaande, daar maak ik notitie van voor het functioneel
>>>> ontwerp van de site.
>>>>
>>>> Tot slot is het denk ik zoals de anderen vragen goed om ook even naar
>>>> een contentpagina te kijken. Kan dat?
>>>>
>>>> Kun je hier iets mee?
>>>>
>>>> groet,
>>>>
>>>> Ton
>>>>
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>>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>>>
>>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>>>> +31-6-34489360
>>>>
>>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/5/21 Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hallo Ton,
>>>>>
>>>>> In mijn iets te enthousiaste zaterdagochtend alles de deur uit gedrag
>>>>> heb ik je per ongeluk de verkeerde versie gestuurd. Excuus, hierbij de
>>>>> juiste versie
>>>>>
>>>>> Vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>> Heinze
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/5/21 Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hallo Ton,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hierbij een eerste schets voor de nieuwe epsi site. Ik heb me ze
>>>>>> redelijk strak gehouden aan de whitehouse.gov indeling en tegelijkertijd
>>>>>> zoveel mogelijk elementen van de epsi site geprobeerd over te nemen, het is
>>>>>> bijna meer een visuele mashup dan een site ontwerp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Een klein beetje extra uitleg:
>>>>>> - De titelbalken bevatten allemaal aan de rechterkant een knop,
>>>>>> vandaar dat er dingen staan als "more","advanced" en "follow".
>>>>>> - Het "welcome John Smith" is alleen voor gebruikers die zijn
>>>>>> ingelogd, bij nieuwe gebruikers zal het tips geven over de wat en links naar
>>>>>> uitleggende pagina's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ik heb ook het photoshop bestand bijgevoegd mocht iemand de neiging
>>>>>> hebben om zelf lekker te gaan schuiven met het voorstel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> Heinze
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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