[epsi-coord] epsi site

Thu Jun 23 10:10:24 BST 2011

Thanks Jonathan!
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Interdependent Thoughts
Ton Zijlstra

ton at tonzijlstra.eu
+31-6-34489360

http://zylstra.org/blog
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:

> (A = versie2front.png, B = Versie-R1frontlogged.png, C =
> versie2content.png)
>
> Think B looks best - nice header, etc. But ideally with content boxes
> formatted as in A. Also could possibly experiment with two side bars
> in B coloured blue as in A but header and footer still white? For
> better or worse the blue bits make the site feel more 'European'.
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks guys,
> > @Katleen, yes I also thought the readability of the blue page is better
> than
> > the white one. Not sure where the difference is, will discuss with the
> > designer (meeting him later today)
> >
> > @Tom the link section at the bottom is the same as can be navigated from
> the
> > top menu and connected drop downs. As it is at whitehouse.gov, it merely
> > provides an additional navigational tool.
> > Yes oauth login etc will be supported.
> > Comments: we'll use DisQus inside the site.
> > Good point on groups visibility and RSS.
> > best,
> > Ton
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Interdependent Thoughts
> > Ton Zijlstra
> >
> > ton at tonzijlstra.eu
> > +31-6-34489360
> >
> > http://zylstra.org/blog
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Tom Kronenburg <tom.kronenburg at zenc.nl>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Frontpage,
> >> like white much better then blue. I am a bit concerned with the footer,
> >> too much, but also too low (you have to scroll to much - presumably - to
> get
> >> there).
> >> I like the freshness of the white design.
> >> Content page:
> >> Bit concerned still with the commenting feature, doesn't look at all
> >> cool... way too old-fashioned.
> >> Also, where are we going to show the 'groups' of people that are
> concerned
> >> with a certain topic, or the tags?
> >> I take it, we're going to allow people to be logging in with Oauth /
> >> twitter / facebook connect etc?
> >> links to rss feeds should be present somewhere...
> >> I'll think about some more stuff later.
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom Kronenburg
> >>
> >> Zenc | Focus op oplossingen
> >> Alexanderstraat 18
> >> 2514 JM Den Haag
> >> KvK:  27190312
> >> Tel:  +31 70 3626944 of +31 6 55778353
> >> Fax:  +31 70 3921835
> >> tom.kronenburg at zenc.nl
> >> www.zenc.nl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Op 23 jun 2011, om 09:36 heeft Ton Zijlstra het volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >> HI all,
> >> I haven't heard new feedback from you guys on the next iteration of the
> >> design (as attached).
> >> Myself I like the white one much better than the dark blue dominated
> one:
> >> makes it lighter and less boring (more depth in the design as well).
> >> If you have any feedback, please let me know, so I can take the next
> step
> >> with the designer.
> >> At epsi.reinvented.net I have started to build a mock-up of the site.
> >> Nothing much to see there yet, but it is where I will be working on the
> >> wireframes / put the site in scaffolds, and where I'll play with adding
> the
> >> design later.
> >> best,
> >> Ton
> >> -------------------------------------------
> >> Interdependent Thoughts
> >> Ton Zijlstra
> >>
> >> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
> >> +31-6-34489360
> >>
> >> http://zylstra.org/blog
> >> -------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just received some new sketches for the epsiplatform. As previously
> >>> feedback is appreciated.
> >>> -------------------------------------------
> >>> Interdependent Thoughts
> >>> Ton Zijlstra
> >>>
> >>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
> >>> +31-6-34489360
> >>>
> >>> http://zylstra.org/blog
> >>> -------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
> >>> Date: 2011/6/6
> >>> Subject: Re: epsi site
> >>> To: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hoi Ton,
> >>>
> >>> Hierbij de nieuwe revisie van het ontwerp, ik heb zoveel mogelijk van
> de
> >>> adviezen mee genomen en ook een voorstel gemaakt voor een content
> pagina.
> >>>
> >>> Als extra heb ik ook een voorpagina toegevoegd die wat lichter is qua
> >>> kleurgebruik om de discussie levendig te houden en als een soort second
> >>> opinion te gebruiken.
> >>>
> >>> De submenu's bovenaan zullen via mouseclick geladen worden. Dus als je
> in
> >>> de menubalk op bijvoorbeeld "Examples" klikt zullen daaronder de
> subkopjes
> >>> "Good Practice","Cases" etc er onder verschijnen.
> >>>
> >>> Groeten,
> >>> Heinze
> >>>
> >>> On 29 May 2011 16:22, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hoi Heinze,
> >>>> Ik heb wat feedback verzameld:
> >>>>
> >>>> Some comments on the draft design/navigation/structure, for what it is
> >>>> worth:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.       I find the colours a bit dull, a bit more marine blue?
> >>>>
> >>>> 2.       I find it too much text, which will be the consequence of
> >>>> putting the blog there
> >>>>
> >>>> 3.       I find the welcome to the EPSI site too prominent and too
> much
> >>>> text
> >>>>
> >>>> 4.       I find the top row rather dull
> >>>>
> >>>> 5.       We have lots of content, would it be possible to mark the #
> of
> >>>> docs under the respective button or something similar?
> >>>>
> >>>> 6.       I like the fact that are pics, but would I would like more,
> >>>> especially where it concerns events on PSI. Would it be possible to
> somehow
> >>>> lure people to a spot where pics can be seen?
> >>>>
> >>>> 7.       I guess there will be drop down menus under the second row
> >>>> buttons? If so, couldn’t that be done in a more Apple way?
> >>>>
> >>>> 8.        Can you work with icons, like flags for news on countries
> (+EU
> >>>> for EC news)?
> >>>>
> >>>> 9.       The same applies to type of news: e.g. legal – scales,
> >>>> technical – a lamp, economic – stack of money, open data – nerd,
> research –
> >>>> Einstein, hot news – pepper etc. Would it be possible to list news
> items in
> >>>> a kind of nu.nl way?
> >>>>
> >>>> 10.   I would also like a European map that will mouse sensitive and
> >>>> will magnify, allowing to click on countries, so you get the news
> items,
> >>>> reports, cases in there
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, I was wondering whether there will be subpages and how they will
> >>>> look like. In other words, is there an overall structure already?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope this is of some help.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Reg. M.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I do like the first sketch. I agree with some of  Marc's point, e.g.
> >>>>
> >>>> - too much text
> >>>>
> >>>> - I also like the idea of icons to visually identify types of content
> >>>> (category, country?)
> >>>>
> >>>> - on the events section I clearly miss something that immediately
> shows
> >>>> me the date of the items or even an overview (calendar)
> >>>>
> >>>> - for news and events I miss a "subscribe to feed / ical"
> >>>>
> >>>> - the 3 categories at the bottom, e.g. "good practice, psi report and
> >>>> cases" will not get a lot of attention there. We might include them
> between
> >>>> guest blog and news & events section in a raw with 3 columns?
> >>>>
> >>>> As Ton and Marc I am curious about the subpages e.g. "content" -pages.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best
> >>>>
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>> Mijn eigen feedback gaat eigenlijk in gelijksoortige richting:
> >>>>
> >>>> nog een hoop tekst, is er ergens plek om bijvoorbeeld een selectie
> >>>> foto's in te tonen. Vooral het massieve blauw er omheen maakt het
> 'dicht' en
> >>>> saai volgens mij. Is er een derde kleur denkbaar als accent die het
> >>>> sprankelender maakt. Of een kleuren palet wat past qua kleur bij het
> logo,
> >>>> maar er wel duidelijk van afwijkt, en er meer complementair aan is?
> >>>>
> >>>> De feedback die over content structuur gaat hoef je natuurlijk niet
> mee
> >>>> te nemen uit bovenstaande, daar maak ik notitie van voor het
> functioneel
> >>>> ontwerp van de site.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tot slot is het denk ik zoals de anderen vragen goed om ook even naar
> >>>> een contentpagina te kijken. Kan dat?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kun je hier iets mee?
> >>>>
> >>>> groet,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ton
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------
> >>>> Interdependent Thoughts
> >>>> Ton Zijlstra
> >>>>
> >>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
> >>>> +31-6-34489360
> >>>>
> >>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
> >>>> -------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2011/5/21 Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hallo Ton,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In mijn iets te enthousiaste zaterdagochtend alles de deur uit gedrag
> >>>>> heb ik je per ongeluk de verkeerde versie gestuurd. Excuus, hierbij
> de
> >>>>> juiste versie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vriendelijke groeten,
> >>>>> Heinze
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/5/21 Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hallo Ton,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hierbij een eerste schets voor de nieuwe epsi site. Ik heb me ze
> >>>>>> redelijk strak gehouden aan de whitehouse.gov indeling en
> tegelijkertijd
> >>>>>> zoveel mogelijk elementen van de epsi site geprobeerd over te nemen,
> het is
> >>>>>> bijna meer een visuele mashup dan een site ontwerp.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Een klein beetje extra uitleg:
> >>>>>> - De titelbalken bevatten allemaal aan de rechterkant een knop,
> >>>>>> vandaar dat er dingen staan als "more","advanced" en "follow".
> >>>>>> - Het "welcome John Smith" is alleen voor gebruikers die zijn
> >>>>>> ingelogd, bij nieuwe gebruikers zal het tips geven over de wat en
> links naar
> >>>>>> uitleggende pagina's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ik heb ook het photoshop bestand bijgevoegd mocht iemand de neiging
> >>>>>> hebben om zelf lekker te gaan schuiven met het voorstel.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vriendelijke groeten,
> >>>>>> Heinze
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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