[epsi-coord] epsi site
Daniel Dietrich
daniel.dietrich at okfn.org
Thu Jun 23 11:08:38 BST 2011
Hi all
My comment goes in the same direction.
frontpage:
- white is better (B)
- top navigation: relation between "examples" and "good practice, cases, etc" visually not clear. General relation between blue and yellow top navigation not clear. This looks actually better in A
- I like the fellow heading (News, Events..) from A, could try to have them on B
- the section of news and events looks a bit too "compressed" to me. A bit more padding would be good.
- "follow us on twitter" button doen't make sense were it is
content page:
- would be good to see how this would look with the white look
- I agree with Tom that the comment section looks a bit bulky
- since this is an example of an event: how would one recognise from the top navi that this article is in the "event" section
- can we do better that "previous" and "next" article? (titles? or as subtitle under prev, next?) also: would that lik to articles or events?
- not clear why "Hello Jon Doe" section has moved down
- question: what is the plan with the "mentioned in this article" section? Is this to be automated or to be done by the editor?
On 23.06.2011, at 10:58, Jonathan Gray wrote:
> (A = versie2front.png, B = Versie-R1frontlogged.png, C = versie2content.png)
>
> Think B looks best - nice header, etc. But ideally with content boxes
> formatted as in A. Also could possibly experiment with two side bars
> in B coloured blue as in A but header and footer still white? For
> better or worse the blue bits make the site feel more 'European'.
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks guys,
>> @Katleen, yes I also thought the readability of the blue page is better than
>> the white one. Not sure where the difference is, will discuss with the
>> designer (meeting him later today)
>>
>> @Tom the link section at the bottom is the same as can be navigated from the
>> top menu and connected drop downs. As it is at whitehouse.gov, it merely
>> provides an additional navigational tool.
>> Yes oauth login etc will be supported.
>> Comments: we'll use DisQus inside the site.
>> Good point on groups visibility and RSS.
>> best,
>> Ton
>> -------------------------------------------
>> Interdependent Thoughts
>> Ton Zijlstra
>>
>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>> +31-6-34489360
>>
>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Tom Kronenburg <tom.kronenburg at zenc.nl>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Frontpage,
>>> like white much better then blue. I am a bit concerned with the footer,
>>> too much, but also too low (you have to scroll to much - presumably - to get
>>> there).
>>> I like the freshness of the white design.
>>> Content page:
>>> Bit concerned still with the commenting feature, doesn't look at all
>>> cool... way too old-fashioned.
>>> Also, where are we going to show the 'groups' of people that are concerned
>>> with a certain topic, or the tags?
>>> I take it, we're going to allow people to be logging in with Oauth /
>>> twitter / facebook connect etc?
>>> links to rss feeds should be present somewhere...
>>> I'll think about some more stuff later.
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Kronenburg
>>>
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>>> tom.kronenburg at zenc.nl
>>> www.zenc.nl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 23 jun 2011, om 09:36 heeft Ton Zijlstra het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> HI all,
>>> I haven't heard new feedback from you guys on the next iteration of the
>>> design (as attached).
>>> Myself I like the white one much better than the dark blue dominated one:
>>> makes it lighter and less boring (more depth in the design as well).
>>> If you have any feedback, please let me know, so I can take the next step
>>> with the designer.
>>> At epsi.reinvented.net I have started to build a mock-up of the site.
>>> Nothing much to see there yet, but it is where I will be working on the
>>> wireframes / put the site in scaffolds, and where I'll play with adding the
>>> design later.
>>> best,
>>> Ton
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>> Interdependent Thoughts
>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>>
>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>>> +31-6-34489360
>>>
>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just received some new sketches for the epsiplatform. As previously
>>>> feedback is appreciated.
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> Interdependent Thoughts
>>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>>>
>>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>>>> +31-6-34489360
>>>>
>>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 2011/6/6
>>>> Subject: Re: epsi site
>>>> To: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hoi Ton,
>>>>
>>>> Hierbij de nieuwe revisie van het ontwerp, ik heb zoveel mogelijk van de
>>>> adviezen mee genomen en ook een voorstel gemaakt voor een content pagina.
>>>>
>>>> Als extra heb ik ook een voorpagina toegevoegd die wat lichter is qua
>>>> kleurgebruik om de discussie levendig te houden en als een soort second
>>>> opinion te gebruiken.
>>>>
>>>> De submenu's bovenaan zullen via mouseclick geladen worden. Dus als je in
>>>> de menubalk op bijvoorbeeld "Examples" klikt zullen daaronder de subkopjes
>>>> "Good Practice","Cases" etc er onder verschijnen.
>>>>
>>>> Groeten,
>>>> Heinze
>>>>
>>>> On 29 May 2011 16:22, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoi Heinze,
>>>>> Ik heb wat feedback verzameld:
>>>>>
>>>>> Some comments on the draft design/navigation/structure, for what it is
>>>>> worth:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I find the colours a bit dull, a bit more marine blue?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. I find it too much text, which will be the consequence of
>>>>> putting the blog there
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I find the welcome to the EPSI site too prominent and too much
>>>>> text
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. I find the top row rather dull
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. We have lots of content, would it be possible to mark the # of
>>>>> docs under the respective button or something similar?
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. I like the fact that are pics, but would I would like more,
>>>>> especially where it concerns events on PSI. Would it be possible to somehow
>>>>> lure people to a spot where pics can be seen?
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. I guess there will be drop down menus under the second row
>>>>> buttons? If so, couldn’t that be done in a more Apple way?
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. Can you work with icons, like flags for news on countries (+EU
>>>>> for EC news)?
>>>>>
>>>>> 9. The same applies to type of news: e.g. legal – scales,
>>>>> technical – a lamp, economic – stack of money, open data – nerd, research –
>>>>> Einstein, hot news – pepper etc. Would it be possible to list news items in
>>>>> a kind of nu.nl way?
>>>>>
>>>>> 10. I would also like a European map that will mouse sensitive and
>>>>> will magnify, allowing to click on countries, so you get the news items,
>>>>> reports, cases in there
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I was wondering whether there will be subpages and how they will
>>>>> look like. In other words, is there an overall structure already?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this is of some help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reg. M.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do like the first sketch. I agree with some of Marc's point, e.g.
>>>>>
>>>>> - too much text
>>>>>
>>>>> - I also like the idea of icons to visually identify types of content
>>>>> (category, country?)
>>>>>
>>>>> - on the events section I clearly miss something that immediately shows
>>>>> me the date of the items or even an overview (calendar)
>>>>>
>>>>> - for news and events I miss a "subscribe to feed / ical"
>>>>>
>>>>> - the 3 categories at the bottom, e.g. "good practice, psi report and
>>>>> cases" will not get a lot of attention there. We might include them between
>>>>> guest blog and news & events section in a raw with 3 columns?
>>>>>
>>>>> As Ton and Marc I am curious about the subpages e.g. "content" -pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> Mijn eigen feedback gaat eigenlijk in gelijksoortige richting:
>>>>>
>>>>> nog een hoop tekst, is er ergens plek om bijvoorbeeld een selectie
>>>>> foto's in te tonen. Vooral het massieve blauw er omheen maakt het 'dicht' en
>>>>> saai volgens mij. Is er een derde kleur denkbaar als accent die het
>>>>> sprankelender maakt. Of een kleuren palet wat past qua kleur bij het logo,
>>>>> maar er wel duidelijk van afwijkt, en er meer complementair aan is?
>>>>>
>>>>> De feedback die over content structuur gaat hoef je natuurlijk niet mee
>>>>> te nemen uit bovenstaande, daar maak ik notitie van voor het functioneel
>>>>> ontwerp van de site.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tot slot is het denk ik zoals de anderen vragen goed om ook even naar
>>>>> een contentpagina te kijken. Kan dat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kun je hier iets mee?
>>>>>
>>>>> groet,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ton
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> Interdependent Thoughts
>>>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>>>>
>>>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>>>>> +31-6-34489360
>>>>>
>>>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/5/21 Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hallo Ton,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In mijn iets te enthousiaste zaterdagochtend alles de deur uit gedrag
>>>>>> heb ik je per ongeluk de verkeerde versie gestuurd. Excuus, hierbij de
>>>>>> juiste versie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> Heinze
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/5/21 Heinze Havinga <heinze.havinga at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hallo Ton,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hierbij een eerste schets voor de nieuwe epsi site. Ik heb me ze
>>>>>>> redelijk strak gehouden aan de whitehouse.gov indeling en tegelijkertijd
>>>>>>> zoveel mogelijk elementen van de epsi site geprobeerd over te nemen, het is
>>>>>>> bijna meer een visuele mashup dan een site ontwerp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Een klein beetje extra uitleg:
>>>>>>> - De titelbalken bevatten allemaal aan de rechterkant een knop,
>>>>>>> vandaar dat er dingen staan als "more","advanced" en "follow".
>>>>>>> - Het "welcome John Smith" is alleen voor gebruikers die zijn
>>>>>>> ingelogd, bij nieuwe gebruikers zal het tips geven over de wat en links naar
>>>>>>> uitleggende pagina's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ik heb ook het photoshop bestand bijgevoegd mocht iemand de neiging
>>>>>>> hebben om zelf lekker te gaan schuiven met het voorstel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>>> Heinze
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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