[epsi-coord] Fwd: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats tomorrow at EUparl 10am

Mon Dec 10 11:32:29 GMT 2012

Also found this
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?lang=en&reference=2011/0430(COD)

I think what we are looking for is an overview of the steps in the process.
And then add links to the relevant sites/docs to that.

So people can see where we currently are in the procedure, and what steps
will likely take place when.

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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Katleen Janssen <
Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be> wrote:

>  If you put together prelex, the document register from the council,
> drafts from the parliament committees and published agendas, you come a
> long way – but it’s a very time consuming process. ****
>
> ** **
>
> What exactly do you have in mind with a tracking page? I like the idea,
> I’m just not really sure how to picture it.****
>
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>
> *From:* epsi-coord-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:
> epsi-coord-bounces at lists.okfn.org] *On Behalf Of *Marc de Vries
> *Sent:* maandag 10 december 2012 11:28
> *To:* epsi-coord at lists.okfn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [epsi-coord] Fwd: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes
> on Open Formats tomorrow at EUparl 10am****
>
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>
> Guys,****
>
> ** **
>
> Katleen described the legislative procedure in her TR on the new
> Directive. I am pretty sure we can build on that, to à large extent.****
>
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>
> Reg. M****
>
>
> Op 10 dec. 2012 om 11:00 heeft Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:****
>
>  Hi Daniel,****
>
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>
> missed this e-mail from you before. Yes, it is a good idea. However I am
> as much confused and walking blind on this as the general public. Dates
> keep floating around, and change, steps get shifted, and the EC never seems
> to be willing to explicitly state what is going to happen next. So we'd
> also need to try and discuss this with the EC. To get up a tracking page
> like you say.****
>
> ** **
>
> Maybe I can ping Katalin at the EC on this, see if she can provide
> additional info on this?****
>
> ** **
>
> best,****
>
> Ton
> ****
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> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi all,
>
> this makes me think if we should boot a page that would list / track all
> the steps of the PSI directive. This should be easy to understand. I think
> most people out there have no good understanding what exactly happens to
> the directive. We could update it and point to it as a reference.
>
> Could we suggest this to the commission instead of one TR or so? What do
> people think?
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: <Richard.Swetenham at ec.europa.eu>****
>
> > Subject: Re: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats
> tomorrow at EUparl 10am****
>
> > Date: 4 December 2012 16:38:48 CET
> > To: <b.ooghe at gmail.com>, <bollecs at sollec.org>, <
> open-government at lists.okfn.org>, <euopendata at lists.okfn.org>, <
> okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>, <transparency-tech at googlegroups.com>, <
> okfn-fr at lists.okfn.org>, <contact at regardscitoyens.org>****
>
> >
> > Please note that, contrary to what you say in the Regards Citoyens blog
> post, the trialogue will not take place after the EP plenary vote. The
> purpose of the  trialogue procedure is to negotiate and to reach an
> agreement in first reading - the EP plenary and the Council need to vote on
> identical  texts.
> >
> > The  trialogue procedure  starts after the lead EP committee has voted.
> This is normally followed by two further meetings.
> >
> > The first trialogue meeting is scheduled to take place on 17 December.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard SWETENHAM
> > Adviser for Open Data
> > European Commission
> > Directorate General for Communications Networks, Content and Technology
> > (DG CONNECT)
> > ________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Mail: EUFO 1/193, European Commission, L-2920 Luxembourg
> > Tel: +352 4301 32400 Mobile: +352 621 350 971
> > E-mail: richard.swetenham at ec.europa.eu
> > Twitter: @EC_opendata
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:
> euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:08 PM
> > To: Ricardo Lafuente; Open Government WG List; EU Open Data Working
> Group; okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org; transparency-tech at googlegroups.com;
> OKFN fr
> > Cc: contact at regardscitoyens.org
> > Subject: Re: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats
> tomorrow at EUparl 10am
> >
> > Hey Ricardo and everyone else,
> >
> > Sorry for the silence: we did relay the result on twitter as soon as
> > we knew it but we couldn't do more since we are all busy at our
> > respective jobs as Regards Citoyens is composed only of volunteers.
> >
> > Indeed the compromise amendment 18 was adopted, which means machine
> > readable and platform independant will be required for open formats as
> > defined for EU PSI (if the text survives the plenary and then the
> > trialogue parliament/commission/council of course), which is already
> > quite good, but not enough in our opinion :
> > the amendment 65 was proposing to specifiy that such formats should be
> > the result of an open-development process in order to avoid the risk
> > of having proprietarized or patented standards used. Unfortunately
> > this one was refused so far.
> >
> > The next step now is the discussion of the PSI directive revision in
> > plenary, which should come along the next months, most probably in
> > March. Then there will be a trialogue with the European commission and
> > the European council who will give their minds for the process that
> > will result into the final text, which national parliaments will then
> > have to transpose.
> >
> > It will be useful by then to continue to contact members of the
> > European parliament in order to let them know why this is an important
> > matter and prepare them to propose new amendments.
> >
> > We will try and gather all pieces together and make a more detailed
> > e-mail and/or blog post during the coming days.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Benjamin for Regards Citoyens
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Ricardo Lafuente <bollecs at sollec.org>
> wrote:
> >> Hello Benjamin!
> >>
> >> I just read on the @RegardsCitoyens Twitter account that amendment 18
> passed
> >> and 65 did not. Which is mostly great news -- thank you all involved in
> this
> >> effort! Can you provide a link for the results announcement?
> >>
> >> Also, can you please clarify the next steps that this process will take
> >> until it is enacted as an EU directive, and are there still obstacles
> in the
> >> way? Amendment 18 (machine-readable formats) is absolutely crucial for
> most
> >> of our efforts here in Portugal, where most PSI content is almost
> >> exclusively available in hard-to-parse PDF.
> >>
> >> Thank you again! Cheers to all who have been enlightening the MEPs!
> >> :r
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/28/2012 04:24 PM, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> As you all probably know, PSI directive is being revised regarding
> >>> reuse soon at the European Parliament. Tomorrow at 10am
> >>>
> >>> <
> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/itre/draft-agendas.html?linkedDocument=true&ufolderComCode=ITRE&ufolderLegId=7&ufolderId=11208&urefProcYear=&urefProcNum=&urefProcCode=#menuzone
> >,
> >>> the ITRE comittee will discuss it and will vote among other things on
> >>> amendments defining what open formats are.
> >>>
> >>> We just sent to all MEPs from the commitee (cf
> >>> <https://memopol.lqdn.fr/search/?q=committees:ITRE%20is_active:1>) a
> >>> note explaining why we believe it is important to ensure this
> >>> definition includes a reference to requiring machine-readable (vote
> >>> for compromise amendment 18) and an open development process (vote for
> >>> amendement 65 from Amelia Andersdotter):
> >>>
> >>> <
> http://www.regardscitoyens.org/documents/20121128-RegardsCitoyens-PSI-reuse-open-formats.pdf
> >
> >>>
> >>> We believe this is a very important matter for OpenData so we call on
> >>> all of you to maybe help us on this advocacy run till tomorrow
> >>> morning.
> >>>
> >>> An efficient way to participate to this work would be to send priorily
> >>> emails or tweets to the ALDE or PPE members of the ITRE commitee in
> >>> order to advise them to vote for compromise amendement 18 and
> >>> amendment 65.
> >>> <https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23PSI&src=typd>
> >>>
> >>> Good evening and good luck to us all! ;)
> >>>
> >>> Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou for Regards Citoyens
> >>>
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