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Instead, anything that can be identified with a Uniform Resource Identifier
can be referred to by RDF. Objects stored in databases like DBpedia are
just one such example.****
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Section 5.1****
*However, provided that the data is sufficiently valuable, we have also
seen that a number of companies and civic groups have started to reformat
the data and building datastreams that are of higher quality.*
The notion of datastreams (which implies a continuous transmission of data
might not be the right term in this section. Instead, data in general might
rather be implied here.****
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http://www.w3.org/RDF/****
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*Katalin IMREI*
Policy Officer****
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*European Commission*
DG CONNECT****
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hi Tom, Hans,<div><br></div><div>See below the feedback of the Commission o=
n the TR on standardization.</div><div><br></div><div>Can you guys prepare =
a revised version? Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>best,</div><div>Ton<br =
clear=3D"all">
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terdependent Thoughts<br>Ton Zijlstra<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:ton at tonzijls=
tra.eu" target=3D"_blank">ton at tonzijlstra.eu</a><br>+31-6-34489360<br><br>
<a href=3D"http://zylstra.org/blog" target=3D"_blank">http://zylstra.org/bl=
og</a><div>
<br></div><div><div><b>Share your real life open data experiences,</b></div=
><div><b>observations and anecdotes:</b></div><div><a href=3D"http://epsipl=
atform.eu/content/share-your-story" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=
=3D"_blank">http://epsiplatform.eu/content/share-your-story</a></div>
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<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<=
br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"></b> <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:Katalin.IMREI at ec.europa.eu">Katalin.IMREI at ec.europa.eu</a>></=
span><br>
Date: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:06 PM<br>Subject: RE: Topic report on open dat=
a and standardization<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:ton.zijlstra at gmail.com">ton.=
zijlstra at gmail.com</a><br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:Szymon.LEWANDOWSKI at ec.europ=
a.eu">Szymon.LEWANDOWSKI at ec.europa.eu</a><br>
<br><br>
<div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">Dear Ton,<u></u><u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">Thank you for this draft =
topic report on open data and standardisation.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">We have carefully read th=
rough your document and also asked our colleague who is
an expert in standardisation issues to make comments.<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">Please find our comments =
below my current message.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">We are looking forward to=
receiving the revised version of the report once our comments
are integrated in it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">Thank you again.<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">Best regards,<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#0d0d0d">Katalin<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A general comment: the in=
teresting question of=A0whether to pursue the strategy of opening up as muc=
h raw data as possible (regardless of standards) or of publishing
only standardised data does not seem to be sufficiently elaborated on in t=
he document. Maybe some further efforts could be made to address this quest=
ion in more details.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As regards the technical =
aspects touched upon in the report, there seem to be some elements that mig=
ht be worth having a second look at:
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Page 4:<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">On the other hand, increasing emphas=
is is being put by the open data community on the importance of linked data=
. An essential element of such linked data is
that they are standardised, preferably according to open standards. Howeve=
r, public bodies often create datasets solely with the view of meeting thei=
r own specific needs, without considering the possible use of the data for =
others (as do private companies),
and they are often dependent on proprietary software that is in many cases=
even specifically created for them by software and management system vendo=
rs. Hence, making available government data in a standardised form takes ti=
me, effort and money, and, as a
consequence, conflicts with providing =91raw data now=92. <u></u><u></u></=
span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Here, it might be worth r=
eferring to the RDF standard for data representation that the concept of Li=
nked Data is based on (and which can indeed be considered
as an open standard).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">When referring to the pro=
prietary software, it could be made clearer how this impacts on the data an=
d interoperability, i.e. by the fact that proprietary software
often implies the usage of proprietary data formats that make interoperabi=
lity difficult.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Section 3.5: The Semantic=
Web<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Here, it might be worth m=
entioning that the Semantic Web standards are also the basis for the Linked=
(Open) Data approach.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Page 9:<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">Some file standards are closely tied=
to the type of data that is being published. To a data owner, it will be i=
mmediately clear whether or not these standards
are suitable to be used in or for a specific dataset. Examples include Goo=
gle=92s KML format for geocodes, .MP3 and other audio files for sound data,=
etc. Even though the difference with the =91regular=92 file formats is som=
ewhat academic, the main distinguishing
factor with these file types is the presence of a =91context=92. E.g. musi=
c data might be expressed (even though not easily played) as a spreadsheet,=
but a spreadsheet will not be stored as an MP3-file.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Here, it seems to me as t=
hough two distinct issues were mixed up: while KML is a data markup languag=
e (i.e. a metadata standard like Dublin Core mentioned in
the next paragraph), Mp3 is a data compression standard.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Page 9:<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">Other standards relate to the repres=
entation of the attributes and characteristics of the data. For instance, t=
he Dublin Core standards are part of the Resource
Description Framework of XML<a href=3D"#13b478e0afc794bc__ftn1" name=3D"13=
b478e0afc794bc__ftnref1" title=3D""><b>[1]</b></a>.
<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dublin Core is not part o=
f RDF but it is a metadata standard that can be represented in RDF or XML.<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Page 9:<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">The file format for linked data file=
s is usually RDF (for Resource Description Framework), which in itself is a=
file-format standard. RDF<a href=3D"#13b478e0afc794bc__ftn2" name=3D"13b47=
8e0afc794bc__ftnref2" title=3D""><b>[2]</b></a>
allows the publisher to link to the semantic web, thus supplying a context=
for the data.
<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rather than being a file =
format, RDF is a data representation standard which can be serialised in di=
fferent file formats.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Page 9:<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">This is due to the fact that the RDF=
contains links (uniform resource identifiers or URI=92s) to entities or re=
lations that are stored within ontology-databases
such as DBPedia.<a href=3D"http://opendatastandards.org/?t=3Dfaqs&faq=
=3Dwhat-is-a-standard" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"text-decoration:non=
e">
</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">From the position of the =
brackets, it sounds as if URIs were links. Instead, anything that can be id=
entified with a Uniform Resource Identifier can be referred
to by RDF. Objects stored in databases like DBpedia are just one such exam=
ple.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Section 5.1<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><i><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">However, provided that the data is s=
ufficiently valuable, we have also seen that a number of companies and civi=
c groups have started to reformat the data and
building datastreams that are of higher quality.<u></u><u></u></span></i><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The notion of datastreams=
(which implies a continuous transmission of data might not be the right te=
rm in this section. Instead, data in general might rather
be implied here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"></p><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"pu=
rple"><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<hr align=3D"left" size=3D"1" width=3D"33%"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin-bottom:5pt"><a href=3D"https://mail.google.com/_/mail-static/_=
/js/main/m_i,t/rt=3Dh/ver=3DzTjBkdZKIgg.en./sv=3D1/am=3D!FdCGt3q8VOT1BO3aNK=
sLUpaWdTV4WvDFmnbzfXDkXyh-no3uCZJLgKi85jH1_kqJE-Yj/d=3D1#13b478e0afc794bc__=
ftnref1" name=3D"13b478e0afc794bc__ftn1" title=3D""><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt">[1]</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10pt">=A0<a href=3D"http://d=
ublincore.org/" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)">http=
://dublincore.org/</span></a>.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:5pt"><a href=3D"ht=
tps://mail.google.com/_/mail-static/_/js/main/m_i,t/rt=3Dh/ver=3DzTjBkdZKIg=
g.en./sv=3D1/am=3D!FdCGt3q8VOT1BO3aNKsLUpaWdTV4WvDFmnbzfXDkXyh-no3uCZJLgKi8=
5jH1_kqJE-Yj/d=3D1#13b478e0afc794bc__ftnref2" name=3D"13b478e0afc794bc__ftn=
2" title=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt">[2]</span></a><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt">=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)"><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.w3.org/RDF/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.w3.org/RDF/</a></span></span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
</div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><br></span></div></div><p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><b><span lang=3D"FR-BE=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif=
";color:#002060">Katalin IMREI<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span lang=3D"FR-BE" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#002060">Policy Officer<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span lang=3D"FR-BE" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=A0<u></u></span></p>
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97d"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"100" height=3D"49" src=3D"cid:image001.gif@=
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"FR-BE" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans=
-serif";color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><b><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#0=
02060">European Commission<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#0020=
60">DG CONNECT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace:none"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#0020=
60">Unit G3 =96 Data Value Chain<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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ze:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#002060">*</span><span lang=3D"FR-BE"=
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quot;;color:#002060">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 EUFO 1/178, L-2557 Luxembourg/Ga=
sperich<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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=3D"color:blue">katalin.imrei at ec.europa.eu</span></a><u></u><u></u></span><=
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