[epsi-coord] PSI Scoreboard discussion at EC

Fri Jan 25 14:38:28 GMT 2013

Hi Antti,

Yes, I spoke with Antti Eskola, and he pointed me to the Facebook page.

Tom has now incorporated your feedback. As to local initiatives, it
requires not just a portal / page but also a minimum number of datasets and
citizen activity around it. Just to clarify.

best,
Ton
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com>wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> The Finns don't allways make comments even if they have something to say
> :) The Finnish representative Antti Eskola raised some discussion about the
> scoreboard in our open data community (Facebook group with 1003 members)
> http://www.facebook.com/groups/fi.okfn/permalink/10151454543890628/.
>
> It seems that my additions came too late, at least there should be some
> points in local PSI, since we have three cities (Helsinki, Tampere,
> Jyväskylä) with working data catalogues. However now when the scoreboard
> was introduced people got interested about it and we will most propably see
> it more carefullu in the coming Open Knowledge Finland convention 8-9.2.
> http://fi.okfn.org/convention/ (idea for this came from Ton, since you
> had mentioned that Italians went trough the scoreboard in some local
> hackathon..)
>
> -Jogi
>
>
> On 25.1.2013 14:47, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
>
>  hi all,
>
>  as said yesterday I presented on the scoreboard in Luxembourg. Most of
> the feedback received was supportive. Germany, France, UK and Spain asked
> questions.
>
>  The UK (Jim Wretham) asked whether it was still useful to have
> indicators on the implementation of the PSI Directive (as I showed them all
> MS score the same points there, so it's not discerning). Told him that the
> last infringement procedures have only just ended, and that with the new
> Directive under way, it will soon be discerning again.
>
>  France wanted to know if we had used the feedback they gave in April.
> Yes, we did.
>
>  Other questions were about how to include the impact of re-use. This of
> course is hard, as it takes a lot of research and there are no easy
> indicators yet. The EC called it 'the holy grail' of finding easy ways to
> establish economic impact. It might be possible to include if there are
> reports of that type for a certain MS as a Yes/No indicator (is a gov
> trying to establish impact in other words), and separately list the impact
> found (not as part of the scoreboard). This as those reports vary wildly in
> scope (topic, type of impact, type of gov looked at, local, national etc.).
>
>  Yvo proposed the MS to provide feedback on the Scoreboard once more,
> within 10 days. I have provided the EC with a text to ask for feedback.
> Spain already indicated they had additional feedback 'worth 85 points'.
>
>  best,
> Ton
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