[epsi-coord] PSI Scoreboard discussion at EC

Fri Jan 25 15:09:06 GMT 2013

Hi,

On 25.1.2013 16:38, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
> Hi Antti,
>
> Yes, I spoke with Antti Eskola, and he pointed me to the Facebook page.
>
> Tom has now incorporated your feedback. As to local initiatives, it 
> requires not just a portal / page but also a minimum number of 
> datasets and citizen activity around it. Just to clarify.

Sure, Helsinki and Tampere shoud meet these requirments. Helsinki has 
hundreds of datasets and plenty of community activity around those. 
Tampere has 20+ datasets and fairly active community 
http://www.facebook.com/groups/opendatatre/ with 76 members and regular 
meetings. Jyväskyä comes behind, having only started the activity now 
with few datasets.

-Jogi

>
> best,
> Ton
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> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Antti Poikola 
> <antti.poikola at gmail.com <mailto:antti.poikola at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     The Finns don't allways make comments even if they have something
>     to say :) The Finnish representative Antti Eskola raised some
>     discussion about the scoreboard in our open data community
>     (Facebook group with 1003 members)
>     http://www.facebook.com/groups/fi.okfn/permalink/10151454543890628/.
>
>     It seems that my additions came too late, at least there should be
>     some points in local PSI, since we have three cities (Helsinki,
>     Tampere, Jyväskylä) with working data catalogues. However now when
>     the scoreboard was introduced people got interested about it and
>     we will most propably see it more carefullu in the coming Open
>     Knowledge Finland convention 8-9.2. http://fi.okfn.org/convention/
>     (idea for this came from Ton, since you had mentioned that
>     Italians went trough the scoreboard in some local hackathon..)
>
>     -Jogi
>
>
>     On 25.1.2013 14:47, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
>>      hi all,
>>
>>     as said yesterday I presented on the scoreboard in Luxembourg.
>>     Most of the feedback received was supportive. Germany, France, UK
>>     and Spain asked questions.
>>
>>     The UK (Jim Wretham) asked whether it was still useful to have
>>     indicators on the implementation of the PSI Directive (as I
>>     showed them all MS score the same points there, so it's not
>>     discerning). Told him that the last infringement procedures have
>>     only just ended, and that with the new Directive under way, it
>>     will soon be discerning again.
>>
>>     France wanted to know if we had used the feedback they gave in
>>     April. Yes, we did.
>>
>>     Other questions were about how to include the impact of re-use.
>>     This of course is hard, as it takes a lot of research and there
>>     are no easy indicators yet. The EC called it 'the holy grail' of
>>     finding easy ways to establish economic impact. It might be
>>     possible to include if there are reports of that type for a
>>     certain MS as a Yes/No indicator (is a gov trying to establish
>>     impact in other words), and separately list the impact found (not
>>     as part of the scoreboard). This as those reports vary wildly in
>>     scope (topic, type of impact, type of gov looked at, local,
>>     national etc.).
>>
>>     Yvo proposed the MS to provide feedback on the Scoreboard once
>>     more, within 10 days. I have provided the EC with a text to ask
>>     for feedback. Spain already indicated they had additional
>>     feedback 'worth 85 points'.
>>
>>     best,
>>     Ton
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