[EU-lobby-data] Fwd: urgent reminder of tasks before next session Thursday 10 January

Thu Jan 10 10:31:14 UTC 2013

hello everyone,

yes, we can have a chat at 2pm this afternoon. Then do some cleaning, I 
will join from my office desk this time, as we are in the sign-off 
process of the EU cits transparency survey, so I will probably have to 
do some multi-tasking in the afternoon.

Timo, re: the issues raised by Curve, I guess the easiest for us is to 
discuss it directly on the call. Have they indicated how much is 'more' 
when talking about budget? Log-in details seem to work with me, let us 
see where we get.

Speak soon!

On 09/01/2013 11:26, Timo Lange wrote:
> Dear Olivier and all others,
>
> I hope you had a relaxing break as well! For me it was really nice to
> have some time doing things completely unrelated to work.
>
> There are indeed some news from our web developers in Berlin/UK (see
> email below). The curve guys ran into some problems with duplicate
> entries. Friedrich, can you talk to them regarding this?
>
> The good news is: there seems to be something we can have a look at.
> Unfortunately, the log-in details provided by Mathilde don't seem to
> work for me. Do you have better luck?
>
> Best, Timo
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> Hello both of you!
> Happy new year!! I hope you had a great Christmas period and start to
> the year.
>
> So I have a couple of questions
>
> First, and most urgent - the guys at Curve agency have had problems with
> the data. They have spent 3 days on sorting it, duplicates etc.
> It would seem that it was assumed the API export would be the full
> database, but in fact does not correspond to the full data. The easiest
> at this stage (and sorry, I assumed had been the case already) is if
> they can have access to the database itself... Friedrich, is this
> possible? and if not, how come...?
>
> This is a few words they sent to describe their problem:
>
> We’ve tried to pull content from the API as best we can and we have
> succeeded in getting the correct amount of content from the API in all
> instances - so for example we succeeded in pulling out 11,233 people
> from the system, but when importing data this data set seems to miss
> lots of people out. To combat this, we also tried to pull a list of
> ‘heads’ and ‘legal’ straight from the representatives, but again there
> seems to be data missing. We’ve concluded that without direct database
> access we’re not confident in the data that is being returned by the API
> and how complete this data is. In summary the API is returning
> incomplete data.
>
> Another issue we’re facing (which you’re obviously aware of is duplicate
> content). There are several rows of duplicate data in the system, but
> there are also many rows of data where the ID’s are the same (we’re
> using the IDs as unique identifiers in our system), but other data might
> be slightly different. It’s difficult to know which data we should trust
> in this instances as obviously we’re less knowledgeable about this data
> than yourselves.
>
> This is quite a problem, because the agreement with them, was not to
> spend time on data cleaning and sorting etc... and unfortunately they
> have had to do this... and this means spend time that has not been
> accounted for (yet..) They know we are very tight on budget.. but they
> are asking that additional budget can be considered. Timo, I don't know
> how much is there and possible.. but it is true that this has caused
> them a lot of extra work.. to be discussed...
>
> They have given me access to design start they have which I give you
> here to login
> They are otherwise happy with how it is advancing and the progress.
>
>
> Please click on the following link to activate your account:
> http://curveagency.hotgloo.com/activate/d5d3d3760eae9869a1bff48bffb399f701b360b1
>
> Use the username and password provided below to sign in:
> Username:mathilde at tacticaltech.org
> Password: fdc386b9
>
>
> Let me know on thoughts about this data question.. sorry to bother you
> Friedrich, but maybe again it is better you talk to them directly so
> that every body is clear on what is the situation...
>
>
> Take care!
>
> Mathilde
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Dear lobbyfacts.eu collective! I hope you all had a great, relaxing
>> winter break; happy new year to all of you. On Thursday afternoon we'll
>> be chatting again as we have a collective cleaning session planned
>> (thursday 10th January, 2-5PM). In the meantime it would be great to get
>> updates on whatever progress has been achieved since we talked on 14
>> December. I'm resending the notes from our last call, to remind all of
>> us (incl myself) of the tasks we committed to do. I'm also very curious
>> if there's any news from the Berlin-based web-designers.
>>
>> One of the things we need to discuss in the next days is the launch
>> date: 19 February turned out not to be available in the Residence
>> Palace. Depending on how far we are with all the tasks, we m,ay anyway
>> need a week extra (or more)... Shall we start the cleaning session
>> Thursday at 14 o'clock with a short skype call about this issue?
>>
>> friendly greetings
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:     Re: [EU-lobby-data] notes crunchers' call - 14122012
>> Date:     Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:02:36 +0100
>> From:     Natacha Cingotti <natacha.cingotti at foeeurope.org>
>> Reply-To:     Data crunching on EU lobby data
>> <eu-lobby-data at lists.okfn.org>
>> To:     Data crunching on EU lobby data <eu-lobby-data at lists.okfn.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> hola folks, quick notes from our call today (below and attached)
>> Have a nice weekend all
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *Notes lobby data crunching call - 14122012*
>>
>> Present: Erik, Ester, Natacha, Olivier, Timo
>>
>>
>> - Website update and launch date
>>
>>
>> With time needed to negotiate new agreement with TacTech, Xmas break
>> ahead, and time needed for feedback and testing website,
>>
>> everyone nervous that timeline not realistic to launch working website
>> on 22 January
>>
>> *
>> AP - decision to postpone launch to 19th Feb (week 8)*
>>
>> *AP - CEO to change room booking at Residence Palace*
>>
>>
>> - Friedrich's app for crowd-sourcing and issue sector-specific tags
>>
>>
>> Few people started playing with it and found some strange things
>> (classification of categories not matching with OpenSecrets' anymore;
>>
>> unclarities with what some of the proposed cat. stand for; US
>> spellingâ€¦). Categories will need to be adapted before launch of the
>> appli.
>>
>>
>> *AP - Erik to send Friedrich feedback and discuss with him which parts
>> can be addressed*
>>
>>
>> *AP - Erik to check with OpenSecrets how they deal with organizations
>> that can be classified under multiple categories *(cf. Arms companies)
>>
>>
>> *AP - all of us to think of which sectors we'd like to prioritize for
>> the launch. Ester to send a list of proposals and everyone to comment on
>> it by 15 Jan*
>>
>>
>> - Decision on average-versus-maximum issue
>>
>>
>> *Consensus to go for average value*
>>
>>
>> - Background texts for website
>>
>>
>> *AP - everyone to send comments to Ester's proposal for structure *
>>
>>
>> *AP - Ester to send first drafts for everyone to comment by 15 Jan
>> (Natacha offers to help -> Ester to send request for specific bits if
>> needed)*
>>
>>
>> - Launch: press invitations and outreach plan
>>
>>
>> *AP - all of us to send comments to Ester by 7 January so that she can
>> send first invit to journos on 10 January*
>>
>>
>> *AP - Erik to write first draft for workshop structure by Friday 21
>> December*
>>
>>
>> *AP - Erik to ask Friedrich if needs more things from us
>> (decisions/infoâ€¦) in terms of finishing the programming part *
>>
>> *+ to suggest proposal on how to move on acronyms *(quite problematic
>> for cleaning)
>>
>>
>> - planning document and calendar
>>
>>
>> *AP - Olivier to update planning doc and send around*
>>
>>
>> -AOB
>>
>>
>> *Next collective cleaning session: thursday 10th January, 2-5PM*
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> On Friday, 14-12-2012 on 16:56 Timo Lange wrote:
>>
>>     Just saw this new email from Mathilde. Didn't have a look at it yet.
>>
>>     timo
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>     Betreff: Lobby Europe
>>     Datum: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:54:35 +0100
>>     Von: Mathilde <mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
>>     An: Timo Lange <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>
>>
>>     To add to the questions I sent earlier, here is the site map and the
>>     technical scoping that needs to be looked through.
>>     I hope you are well!
>>
>>     Mathilde
>>
>>
>>     --    Timo Lange
>>     LobbyControl e.V. - Berliner BÃ¼ro
>>     Schiffbauerdamm 15
>>     10117 Berlin
>>     Tel: ++49 - (0)30 - 275 83 911
>>     Fax: ++49 - (0)30 - 278 79 367
>>     timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de <mailto:timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>
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