[EU-lobby-data] Fwd: URGENT - Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data

Friedrich Lindenberg friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org
Tue Jan 15 11:31:20 UTC 2013


Hello all,

I'm terribly sorry for falling off the radar at such a bad time, I was in
the US on a week-long all-day workshop. I'm back now and will get back to
Curve on their questions ASAP (& keep you in CC).

- Friedrich


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Timo Lange <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Mathilde now asks for feedback concerning the visuals (which I still
> haven't been able to see yet). What I understood from you is that there
> is not enough there yet to give a clear feedback. Can you comment anyway
> on it? What do we need to give a definitive feedback?
>
> I guess Friedrich is still unavailable?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Timo
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Betreff: URGENT - Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data
> Datum: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:58:45 +0100
> Von: Mathilde <mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
> An: Timo Lange <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>,  Friedrich Lindenberg
> <friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org>
>
> Hello both of you,
>
> for the guys at Curve agency, they need answers to the questions below
> as soon as possible.
>
> Friedrich - any news on how they can retrieve the dtabase?
>
> Have you been able to look at the visuals? Can I give them sign off so
> that they can continue?
>
> Timo, it would be great if you could let me know when would be a good
> moment to call?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mathilde
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data
> Date:   Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:09:40 +0100
> From:   Mathilde <mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
> To:     Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org>, Timo Lange
> <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>
>
>
>
> Hello both of you!
> Happy new year!! I hope you had a great Christmas period and start to
> the year.
>
> So I have a couple of questions
>
> First, and most urgent - the guys at Curve agency have had problems with
> the data. They have spent 3 days on sorting it, duplicates etc.
> It would seem that it was assumed the API export would be the full
> database, but in fact does not correspond to the full data. The easiest
> at this stage (and sorry, I assumed had been the case already) is if
> they can have access to the database itself... Friedrich, is this
> possible? and if not, how come...?
>
> This is a few words they sent to describe their problem:
>
> We’ve tried to pull content from the API as best we can and we have
> succeeded in getting the correct amount of content from the API in all
> instances - so for example we succeeded in pulling out 11,233 people
> from the system, but when importing data this data set seems to miss
> lots of people out. To combat this, we also tried to pull a list of
> ‘heads’ and ‘legal’ straight from the representatives, but again there
> seems to be data missing. We’ve concluded that without direct database
> access we’re not confident in the data that is being returned by the API
> and how complete this data is. In summary the API is returning
> incomplete data.
>
> Another issue we’re facing (which you’re obviously aware of is duplicate
> content). There are several rows of duplicate data in the system, but
> there are also many rows of data where the ID’s are the same (we’re
> using the IDs as unique identifiers in our system), but other data might
> be slightly different. It’s difficult to know which data we should trust
> in this instances as obviously we’re less knowledgeable about this data
> than yourselves.
>
> This is quite a problem, because the agreement with them, was not to
> spend time on data cleaning and sorting etc... and unfortunately they
> have had to do this... and this means spend time that has not been
> accounted for (yet..) They know we are very tight on budget.. but they
> are asking that additional budget can be considered. Timo, I don't know
> how much is there and possible.. but it is true that this has caused
> them a lot of extra work.. to be discussed...
>
> They have given me access to design start they have which I give you
> here to login
> They are otherwise happy with how it is advancing and the progress.
>
>
> Please click on the following link to activate your account:
>
> http://curveagency.hotgloo.com/activate/d5d3d3760eae9869a1bff48bffb399f701b360b1
>
> Use the username and password provided below to sign in:
> Username:mathilde at tacticaltech.org
> Password: fdc386b9
>
>
> Let me know on thoughts about this data question.. sorry to bother you
> Friedrich, but maybe again it is better you talk to them directly so
> that every body is clear on what is the situation...
>
>
> Take care!
>
> Mathilde
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Timo Lange
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>
>
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