[EU-lobby-data] Fwd: URGENT - Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data

Tue Jan 15 11:48:57 UTC 2013

Gern, bin erreichbar!

- Friedrich

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Timo Lange <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>wrote:

> Hey Friedrich,
>
> schön von dir zu hören!
>
> Vielleicht können wir heute oder morgen im Laufe des Tages auch nochmal
> telefonieren?
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Timo
>
>
> Am 15.01.2013 12:31, schrieb Friedrich Lindenberg:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm terribly sorry for falling off the radar at such a bad time, I was in
> > the US on a week-long all-day workshop. I'm back now and will get back to
> > Curve on their questions ASAP (& keep you in CC).
> >
> > - Friedrich
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Timo Lange <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Mathilde now asks for feedback concerning the visuals (which I still
> >> haven't been able to see yet). What I understood from you is that there
> >> is not enough there yet to give a clear feedback. Can you comment anyway
> >> on it? What do we need to give a definitive feedback?
> >>
> >> I guess Friedrich is still unavailable?
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Timo
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Betreff: URGENT - Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding
> data
> >> Datum: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:58:45 +0100
> >> Von: Mathilde <mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
> >> An: Timo Lange <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>,  Friedrich Lindenberg
> >> <friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org>
> >>
> >> Hello both of you,
> >>
> >> for the guys at Curve agency, they need answers to the questions below
> >> as soon as possible.
> >>
> >> Friedrich - any news on how they can retrieve the dtabase?
> >>
> >> Have you been able to look at the visuals? Can I give them sign off so
> >> that they can continue?
> >>
> >> Timo, it would be great if you could let me know when would be a good
> >> moment to call?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Mathilde
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject:        Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data
> >> Date:   Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:09:40 +0100
> >> From:   Mathilde <mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
> >> To:     Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org>, Timo
> Lange
> >> <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello both of you!
> >> Happy new year!! I hope you had a great Christmas period and start to
> >> the year.
> >>
> >> So I have a couple of questions
> >>
> >> First, and most urgent - the guys at Curve agency have had problems with
> >> the data. They have spent 3 days on sorting it, duplicates etc.
> >> It would seem that it was assumed the API export would be the full
> >> database, but in fact does not correspond to the full data. The easiest
> >> at this stage (and sorry, I assumed had been the case already) is if
> >> they can have access to the database itself... Friedrich, is this
> >> possible? and if not, how come...?
> >>
> >> This is a few words they sent to describe their problem:
> >>
> >> We’ve tried to pull content from the API as best we can and we have
> >> succeeded in getting the correct amount of content from the API in all
> >> instances - so for example we succeeded in pulling out 11,233 people
> >> from the system, but when importing data this data set seems to miss
> >> lots of people out. To combat this, we also tried to pull a list of
> >> ‘heads’ and ‘legal’ straight from the representatives, but again there
> >> seems to be data missing. We’ve concluded that without direct database
> >> access we’re not confident in the data that is being returned by the API
> >> and how complete this data is. In summary the API is returning
> >> incomplete data.
> >>
> >> Another issue we’re facing (which you’re obviously aware of is duplicate
> >> content). There are several rows of duplicate data in the system, but
> >> there are also many rows of data where the ID’s are the same (we’re
> >> using the IDs as unique identifiers in our system), but other data might
> >> be slightly different. It’s difficult to know which data we should trust
> >> in this instances as obviously we’re less knowledgeable about this data
> >> than yourselves.
> >>
> >> This is quite a problem, because the agreement with them, was not to
> >> spend time on data cleaning and sorting etc... and unfortunately they
> >> have had to do this... and this means spend time that has not been
> >> accounted for (yet..) They know we are very tight on budget.. but they
> >> are asking that additional budget can be considered. Timo, I don't know
> >> how much is there and possible.. but it is true that this has caused
> >> them a lot of extra work.. to be discussed...
> >>
> >> They have given me access to design start they have which I give you
> >> here to login
> >> They are otherwise happy with how it is advancing and the progress.
> >>
> >>
> >> Please click on the following link to activate your account:
> >>
> >>
> http://curveagency.hotgloo.com/activate/d5d3d3760eae9869a1bff48bffb399f701b360b1
> >>
> >> Use the username and password provided below to sign in:
> >> Username:mathilde at tacticaltech.org
> >> Password: fdc386b9
> >>
> >>
> >> Let me know on thoughts about this data question.. sorry to bother you
> >> Friedrich, but maybe again it is better you talk to them directly so
> >> that every body is clear on what is the situation...
> >>
> >>
> >> Take care!
> >>
> >> Mathilde
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Timo Lange
> >> LobbyControl e.V. - Berliner Büro
> >> Schiffbauerdamm 15
> >> 10117 Berlin
> >> Tel: ++49 - (0)30 - 275 83 911
> >> Fax: ++49 - (0)30 - 278 79 367
> >> timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de
> >> www.lobbycontrol.de
> >>
> >>
> >>
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