[euopendata] VL: Digital Agenda Stakeholder Day, 25 October 2010

Fri Sep 24 09:58:17 UTC 2010

Hi,

I did submit the Marc's idea about PSI accessibility, only then I found out
that each one can submit only one idea... if I get invited to Brussels
because of that idea I will pass the honour to Marc.

Is anyone else willing to submit one of the following ideas:

*2# EU Open Data manual*
*3# EU wide data catalogue*
*4# EU Apps4Democracy*

There is still time until the end of the day and only 800 characters of text
is needed.

-Jogi

On 23 September 2010 15:10, Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Thanks Titti and Marc for suggestions.
>
> I shortened the Marc's text to about 800 *characters* and listed the other
> suggestions as titles here:
> http://euopendata.okfnpad.org/3
>
> btw. Marc I have read your article but can't remember the four factors out
> of memory... and for some reason your link didn't work?
>
> If you have a spare moment with a cup of coffee today, please help me to
> type in something under the empty titles.
>
> -Jogi
>
>
> On 23.9.2010 14:34, Marc de Vries wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I do not know whether my thoughts jotted below would qualify as 'an idea',
>> but I truly think this should be on the agenda of Ms Kroes when we want to
>> shape the future of PSI re-use. Could you make sure this is put to the
>> attention of the Commission?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marc
>>
>> ++++
>>
>> To me accessibility is THE key element that can potentially let PSI re-use
>> rock and roll. Where access to PSI will increase almost autonomously,
>> accessibility will become the driver. Without proper policy hereon, there
>> is
>> hardly any point in providing access (the best place to hide a book is in
>> the library).
>>
>> Like for the creation of PSI, the creation of accessibility to that PSI is
>> also limited by the public task. In other words: a political decision is
>> needed to what extent the provision of accessibility should be done by the
>> government itself and where actually this ends and companies should step
>> in
>> to enhance the accessibility. Put differently, the government should
>> provide
>> a rock solid guarantee that it will provide a basic level of accessibility
>> to PSI.
>>
>> Obviously, this guarantee needs a legal basis at EU level, otherwise
>> nothing
>> will happen and if something will happen it will eb in isolation. So,
>> along
>> the lines of the INSPIRE Directive, a European framework is needed on
>> accessibility, covering also other sectors than environmental data. In
>> fact,
>> INSPIRE could be the pilot and source of inspiration here.
>>
>> Looking further ahead, it would make sense to create a regulatory
>> framework
>> where the whole life cycle of PSI is addressed. This may be a tough case
>> where it concerns access (which is typically an issue where national
>> governments want to stay on top and from which the Commission wants to
>> stay
>> away for sure), but for accessibility and re-use, such integration would
>> make perfect sense. In other words, at some point we need to integrate the
>> INSPIRE and PSI re-use Directive into a broader framework, also addressing
>> the re-use 'showstoppers', being: copyright and database rights (believe
>> me,
>> these instruments were not created to protect the interests of
>> governments).
>>
>> Concretely, to incubate the discussions hereon, I would suggest to do a
>> fundamental study on the relationship between the four factors determining
>> the usage value of PSI and the question whether it would make sense to
>> extend the European regulatory framework, where the interests of business
>> and citizens should be the yardstick (for which the EU Treaty provides a
>> perfectly valid basis). This should be put on the digital agenda of Ms
>> Kroes!
>>
>> Marc de Vries
>> PSI re-use addict
>> info at dfevriesmarc.nl
>>
>> interested in some more of my thoughts on this matter? Have a look at:
>>
>> http://www.epsiplus.net/psi_library/reports/reverse_engineering_europe_s_psi
>> _re_use_rules_towards_an_integrated_conceptual_framework_for_psi_re_use
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org
>> [mailto:euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org] Namens titti cimmino
>> Verzonden: donderdag 23 september 2010 12:29
>> Aan: Antti Poikola
>> CC: EU Open Data Working Group
>> Onderwerp: Re: [euopendata] VL: Digital Agenda Stakeholder Day, 25 October
>> 2010
>>
>>
>> Il giorno 23/set/2010, alle ore 10.29, Antti Poikola ha scritto:
>>
>>  Hello everybody,
>>>
>> Hi
>>
>>> There is time until tomorrow. friday 24th, to leave *ideas* (max 800
>>>
>> characters) related to EU Digital Agenda and I heard that especially ideas
>> about the use of pen data are expected.
>>
>>> What about:
>>> -EU Open Data manual ->  live document
>>> -EU wide data catalogue based on ckan
>>>
>> -EU Apps4Democracy where OpenData meets citizen innovation
>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>  Further to your interest in the Digital Agenda for Europe and
>>>>
>>> participation in the recent information meeting in your country, the
>> European Commission's Direct fredrik.vonessen at almega.seorate-General for
>> Information Society would now like to invite you to a follow-up event
>> organised to discuss how to put the new strategy into practice and how you
>> can get involved.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why not propose an idea? The best ideas will get the chance to be
>>>>
>>> presented at the conference. In particular, which initiatives do you want
>> to
>> take to implement one (or more) of the 101 Digital Agenda actions?
>> Alternatively, do you have ideas or initiatives that are not directly
>> covered by the listed actions, but which would contribute to meeting the
>> overall aims of the Digital Agenda?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please send your contribution using the online form on the event website
>>>>
>>> at: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/events/dae/2010/index_en.htm
>> where you will also find all additional information.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We look forward to receiving your ideas by 24 September 2010.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can also watch the conference live on the web in English, French,
>>>>
>>> German, Italian, Spanish and Polish.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ken Ducatel
>>>>
>>>> Head of Unit
>>>>
>>>> Unit C1, Directorate-General Information Society and Media
>>>>
>>>> European Commission
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Contact:
>>>>
>>>> Unit C1, Directorate-General Information Society and Media
>>>>
>>>> European Commission
>>>>
>>>> INFSO-DIGITAL-AGENDA at ec.europa.eu
>>>>
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