[euopendata] eurostat hackday

Mon Jan 31 12:29:28 UTC 2011

Thanks Michael


> > There was virtually no advertising, the event just sprung out of the
> blue,
> > with one announcement only the day before,  and very few local people
> knew
> > about it (outside the circle of our linkedata community locally which
> Keith
> > is co=leading).
>
> I would question this statement. IIRC the OKF did a good job in advertising
> it (well, obviously not a year in advance, but enough time allow people to
> plan ahead). I, for example, pointed it out (and I was definitely not one
> of
> the first people to do so) on 8 Dec [1].
>
>
I meant here in Edinburgh, at local level, the hackday info was circulating
to the public (so outside the project partneers and their
immediate circle) only one or two  days before the event, as far as I know
(and I follow most  of them)

http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ok-scotland/2010-December/subject.html


> > After I collect all the data (provided I get it) I ll compile a fact
> sheet
> > and circulate it for further inputs on how to mesh it
>
> Fact sheet is good. Open *data* is better.
>
> Cheers,
>      Michael
>
> [1] https://twitter.com/#!/mhausenblas/status/12460414994481152<https://twitter.com/#%21/mhausenblas/status/12460414994481152>
>
> --
> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
> Ireland, Europe
> Tel. +353 91 495730
> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
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>
>
>
> > From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com>
> > Reply-To: <paoladimaio10 at googlemail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:59:08 +0000
> > To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas at deri.org>
> > Cc: euopendata <euopendata at lists.okfn.org>
> > Subject: Re: [euopendata] eurostat hackday
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > thanks for your detailed reply and for sharing the rationale,
> >
> > So are the outcomes of the hackday also tied in /related with your LATC
> > deliverables?
> > What is LATC relationship to OKFn, if any?
> > (just wondering).
> >
> >
> > I'd like to know if in other cities as well if  the participants
> attendance
> > is somehow orchestrated around
> > EU funded projects,
> >
> > Obviously its good to leverage synergy,
> > but I dont think I would call that bottom up self organisatiom stricly
> > speaking :-)
> >
> > There was virtually no advertising, the event just sprung out of the
> blue,
> > with one announcement only the day before,  and very few local people
> knew
> > about it (outside the circle of our linkedata community locally which
> Keith
> > is co=leading).
> >
> >
> > The very bottom line question is: could the same  Eurostathackday outputs
> > have been generated with the people working remotely, via IRC?
> >
> > re.mashup
> > Yes, generally speaking we should increase our awareness of the cost to
> the
> > community (vs the benefits) of these exercises, so that we can
> > strive to improve the collaboration system among EU research partner
> without
> > taking a toll both in terms of costs to the public, as well as
> environmental
> > costs
> > (a bit of common sense now and then shouldnt hurt scientific endeavors
> :-)
> >
> > After I collect all the data (provided I get it) I ll compile a fact
> sheet
> > and circulate it for further inputs on how to mesh it
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > PDM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Michael Hausenblas <
> > michael.hausenblas at deri.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Paola,
> >>
> >> I can only speak for LATC (in my role as LATC co-ordinator). Yes, I
> think,
> >> in order to be credible, we need to walk our talk; heck, we're trying to
> >> convince governments that transparency is good for them, so we need to
> eat
> >> our own dog food, right?
> >>
> >>> a) what have been the outcomes/benefits
> >>
> >> AFAIK there will be a report on this. Please be patient.
> >>
> >>> b) how money did it cost EU taxpayers to fly around people to attend
> the
> >>> respective sessions, in the case these were not participating in their
> >> local
> >> hometown/region
> >>> c) a breakdown of which  EU projects covered for the travel costs
> >>
> >> As for LATC, the participation in the Eurostat hackday was sort of a
> >> (welcome) and synergetic side-effect. In fact, what we really had was a
> >> joint LATC WP1/WP2 technical meeting. The LATC's WP1 assembles and
> delivers
> >> the 24/7 Interlinking Platform, and in WP2 DERI and Talis take care of
> >> (amongst other things) to RDFise and interlink the Eurostat dataset. G
> >>
> >> Given that Keith Alexander (Talis) is located close to Edinburgh and had
> to
> >> meet with Richard Cyganiak and Aftab Iqbal (both DERI), I found it
> sensible
> >> to propose to meet there - this is the cheapest and closest location
> from
> >> Galway POV - in order to leverage the communication and sharing with
> others
> >> (incl. PlanetData liaison partner Andreas Harth). As you can see, we
> tried
> >> everything to cut down costs as much as possible and maximise outcome in
> >> the
> >> realm of things we're contractually obliged to deliver in LATC.
> >>
> >>> d) some kind of carbon footprint for the day
> >>
> >> A very good idea! How about you go ahead and provide a mashup of this?
> I'd
> >> be interested in this showcase of open data.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>      Michael
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow
> >> LiDRC - Linked Data Research Centre
> >> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
> >> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway
> >> Ireland, Europe
> >> Tel. +353 91 495730
> >> http://linkeddata.deri.ie/
> >> http://sw-app.org/about.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio at gmail.com>
> >>> Reply-To: <paoladimaio10 at googlemail.com>
> >>> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 17:59:40 +0000
> >>> To: euopendata <euopendata at lists.okfn.org>
> >>> Subject: [euopendata] eurostat hackday
> >>>
> >>> Greetings
> >>>
> >>> I am putting together a summary of cost/benefits activities  for the
> >>> EUROSTAT hackday
> >>> including the 'environmental cost' of flying people around
> >>>
> >>> http://eurostat.okfn.org/
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to know
> >>>
> >>> a) what have been the outcomes/benefits
> >>> b) how money did it cost EU taxpayers to fly around people to attend
> the
> >>> respective sessions, in the
> >>> case these were not participating in their local hometown/region
> >>> c) a breakdown of which  EU projects covered for the travel costs
> >>> d) some kind of carbon footprint for the day
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have this information on this list? If not, I ll ask the EU
> >>> Commission for the
> >>> breakdown
> >>>
> >>> cheers
> >>>
> >>> PDM
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> >>
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