[geo-discuss] Re: Fwd: [ordnancemaps] Soviet Military Maps of UK

Rufus Pollock rufus.pollock at okfn.org
Sat Aug 20 18:26:27 UTC 2005

[Moving to discuss as this seems a more appropriate]

Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Here's one from the Ordnance Survey discussion list (not OS 
> politics/licensing, rather the study and collection of OS maps).
> The Soviet military maps represent an interesting potential source for 
> free geodata. OS has laid claim to partial copyright, and made what (to 
> me) sounded like quite a convincing case. But the message below suggests 
> there may be more to it than that.

What was their case? That the Russians took the data from the OS? What 
is the copyright status of Russian maps in general?

> I can't commit to going (I'll just have started a new job, a long way 
> from Cambridge) but will circulate among a few Cambridge-based types I 
> know. Anyone else interested? (8 Oct is a Saturday, I believe.)

I may well be in Cambridge that day and if so would definitely like to 



> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: "jomidav" <jomidav at btopenworld.com>
>> Date: 20 August 2005 10:37:01 BST
>> To: ordnancemaps at yahoogroups.co.uk
>> Subject: [ordnancemaps] Soviet Military Maps of UK
>> Reply-To: ordnancemaps at yahoogroups.co.uk
>> Members of this forum may be interested in the 'study day' at
>> Cambridge on 8 October. The purpose is to pool our knowledge of the
>> Soviet military mapping of Britain.
>> We will have three speakers : Henry Dodds (presenter of Radio 4
>> programme Balalaikas in Blackpool), David Watt (of DGIA) and myself,
>> John Davies (author of Sheetlines story 'Uncle Joe Knew Where You
>> Lived').
>> We will discuss the global Soviet mapping initiative and will focus on
>> UK and Ireland and in particular on the large scale town plans.  The
>> OS have claimed that the maps contravene Crown Copyright, but my
>> researches have fairly convincingly demonstrated otherwise.
>> There will be an exhibition of several Soviet sheets and the
>> equivalent OS maps and a discussion forum to share information and
>> reach some conclusions.  Several of those attending have personal
>> knowledge of the circumstances of their production and deployment.
>> The venue is Cambridge University Library.  Date is 08.10.05 and the
>> time is 10.30 for 11.00 until about 16.00.  There is no fee but a
>> small administrative charge may be required.
>> Numbers are limited and advance booking is essential.  There are still
>> some places available.  Please contact me direct on
>> jomidav at btinternet.com to reserve a place.
>> John Davies
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