[iRail] Commuters' strike

Koen Delvaux delvauxkoen at gmail.com
Mon Nov 1 00:22:45 UTC 2010


Well, journalists look for stories. With the "virtual strike" you provide
the content for an existing story, which is good. Tell them stuff like "we
will know in realtime in which trainstation how many percent of travelers
are on strike"
If you propose iRail as a community of travellers they might also be
interested in adding the open data story, but I guess this is already
stretching it. Jquery or different platforms or app vs website is definately
out of their league. (At least for general press, after they feature you,
specialised press like Datanews will be interested in those topics)
On Oct 31, 2010 3:26 PM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter.colpaert at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Yeri and list,
>
> The point about using jquery mobile is outsourcing the optimisation for
> different mobile phones to the jquery community. As you can see here:
> http://jquerymobile.com/gbs/ . If you check it closely I think the
> support at this moment is quite decent and even better than what we have
> at this moment.
>
> With JQuery mobile you don't have to load everything from one page. You
> can load an external page into the current page so no worries. The
> About, news, feedback, ... page can be loaded separately. On top of
> that: the current frontpage is 28.9KB to load. The JQuery one is 54KB to
> load (This will not get any bigger). It's up to you to decide whether
> this doubling in size is worth it.
>
> I don't think we will have trouble finding the right people to give us
> feedback on the new mobile site. We already have this mailinglist don't
> we?
>
> On the other hand, finding journalists who are willing to write about
> this is not that easy and we have to provide them with decent stuff. I
> have no experience whatsoever with dealing with press/media. So please
> (and I'm talking to for instance Koen (kodel) or Steven (pekesenertjes)
> here) give us some guidance on this.
>
> Pieter
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 11:50 +0800, Yeri Tiete wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> jq needs a lot of improvements (do we have the spare time, in 15 days?)
and will need optimisation per mobile device.
>> Probably want to give users the option to return to the old interface as
well for now.
>> Due to jq's nature to load all pages (well, it's just one page), we need
to test its performance over slow and unstable networks (gprs).
>>
>> We should have a fair user base to test new layouts as well. Any way to
get a bunch of trustworthy beta-testers? Who'll provide us with feedback.
And perhaps write blog posts about the new features/layouts/... ? :P
>>
>> I contacted Lenzo Robijn, the FB page owner of the commuters' strike to
get in touch with us.
>>
>> Who will we proactively send to press release to? And it probably should
be online somewhere as well (create PressRelease page on our wiki?)
>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>> Yeri Tiete
>> yeri at tiete.be
>> www.yeri.be
>> +32 (0)474/61.01.39
>>
>> On 31 Oct 2010, at 07:06, Pieter Colpaert wrote:
>>
>> > Hey list,
>> >
>> > I think Koen makes a pretty good point. We should show a button on the
>> > mobile site for supporting a virtual strike. In meantime we should as
>> > well release a new mobile webdesign based on jquery mobile (example
>> > proof of concept here http://dev.irail.be/jq ), and go for a press
>> > release.
>> >
>> > Proposal to press-release and thus what we should implement and
>> > accomplish by then:
>> > * On the 15th of November iRail will do a virtual strike. This means on
>> > that day you'll be able to go to the site and click a button. This way
>> > you'll show your support for a better national railway company with
less
>> > striking days.
>> > * On the 15th of November the iRail team will be launching their new
>> > interface which should be finger-friendly and optimized for iPhone,
>> > iPad, android, symbian, and other mobile devices.
>> > * iRail remains by the people for the people and is developing native
>> > apps called BeTrains, which is already available for android and soon
>> > for iPhone, Nokia devices, samsung phones and windows mobile.
>> > * If any developer wants to use trainschedules on their website or
>> > somewhere else, they can do that through the API: http://api.iRail.be
>> > * iRail is a community project and anyone is welcome to help out on
>> > project.iRail.be. There are a lot of interesting things about to
happen.
>> >
>> > I really need your feedback on this one. Is this the right thing to do?
>> > We should as well in some way work together with the facebook guys or
at
>> > least inform them that we're doing this. Can anyone contact them and
>> > give them a link to this mailinglist post or maybe give them my e-mail
>> > address? Anyone has any better/other idea that might be worth
>> > considering?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot and before I forget to mention it: this community rocks.
>> >
>> > Pieter
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 07:43 +0200, Koen Delvaux wrote:
>> >> Commutere strike initiative is doomed to fail:
>> >> Bad communication, bad activism and too much effort demanded from the
>> >> participant.
>> >>
>> >> BUT
>> >>
>> >> Idea for press release:
>> >>
>> >> Irail organises virtual commuters strike
>> >>
>> >> Besides the commuters strike, there is also a virtual strike. People
>> >> who use the irail.be application daily to know if their train wil be
>> >> arriving on time will see a "virtual strike" button in their
>> >> application on the day of the commuters strike. With this button,
>> >> users can express their desire to go on strike against the union
>> >> actions of nmbs/sncb.
>> >> The virtual strike has been organised on popular request of the irail
>> >> users. The irail team expects that as much as 60% of their users will
>> >> participate in the virtual strike.
>> >> By organising this action, the team behind irail wants to express
>> >> their sympathy with customers who are disgrunted by the latest actions
>> >> from nmbs/sncb unions.
>> >>
>> >> If you think this is feasible I think it can get some press attention
>> >> if we seed it. Details have to be looked up (is it on monday? Is it
>> >> against unions or against sncb/nmbs? I didn't quite follow :))
>> >>
>> >> Greets,
>> >>
>> >> Koen
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 30, 2010 2:06 AM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter.colpaert at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Hi List,
>> >>>
>> >>> on the 15th of November some people got the idea of having a
>> >> commuters
>> >>> strike. The details of this are on facebook
>> >>> (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=157172534318954) and enclosed
>> >> in
>> >>> this mail.
>> >>>
>> >>> My questions to our community:
>> >>> * Do we need to do something as the iRail community?
>> >>> * Do you have any ideas? We sure have to stay up: we can't let the
>> >> user
>> >>> experience suffer, but we can put a link on the results page.
>> >>> * Can anyone bring me in touch (phone number, instant messaging,
>> >>> email, ...) with the starter(s)?
>> >>>
>> >>> Any feedback welcome,
>> >>>
>> >>> Pieter
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> iRail mailing list
>> >> iRail at list.irail.be
>> >> http://lists.rootspirit.com/mailman/listinfo/irail
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > iRail mailing list
>> > iRail at list.irail.be
>> > http://lists.rootspirit.com/mailman/listinfo/irail
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> iRail mailing list
>> iRail at list.irail.be
>> http://lists.rootspirit.com/mailman/listinfo/irail
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> iRail mailing list
> iRail at list.irail.be
> http://lists.rootspirit.com/mailman/listinfo/irail
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/irail/attachments/20101101/c9844a4f/attachment-0002.html>


More information about the iRail mailing list