[iRail] Commuters' strike

Thu Nov 4 16:53:27 UTC 2010

Nevermind. Apparently they're striking theirselves:

http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/989/Binnenland/article/detail/1178676/2010/11/04/Staking-bij-het-spoor-op-til.dhtml

Pieter

On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 01:22 +0100, Koen Delvaux wrote:
> Well, journalists look for stories. With the "virtual strike" you
> provide the content for an existing story, which is good. Tell them
> stuff like "we will know in realtime in which trainstation how many
> percent of travelers are on strike"
> If you propose iRail as a community of travellers they might also be
> interested in adding the open data story, but I guess this is already
> stretching it. Jquery or different platforms or app vs website is
> definately out of their league. (At least for general press, after
> they feature you, specialised press like Datanews will be interested
> in those topics)
> 
> On Oct 31, 2010 3:26 PM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter.colpaert at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Yeri and list,
> > 
> > The point about using jquery mobile is outsourcing the optimisation
> for
> > different mobile phones to the jquery community. As you can see
> here:
> > http://jquerymobile.com/gbs/ . If you check it closely I think the
> > support at this moment is quite decent and even better than what we
> have
> > at this moment.
> > 
> > With JQuery mobile you don't have to load everything from one page.
> You
> > can load an external page into the current page so no worries. The
> > About, news, feedback, ... page can be loaded separately. On top of
> > that: the current frontpage is 28.9KB to load. The JQuery one is
> 54KB to
> > load (This will not get any bigger). It's up to you to decide
> whether
> > this doubling in size is worth it.
> > 
> > I don't think we will have trouble finding the right people to give
> us
> > feedback on the new mobile site. We already have this mailinglist
> don't
> > we?
> > 
> > On the other hand, finding journalists who are willing to write
> about
> > this is not that easy and we have to provide them with decent stuff.
> I
> > have no experience whatsoever with dealing with press/media. So
> please
> > (and I'm talking to for instance Koen (kodel) or Steven
> (pekesenertjes)
> > here) give us some guidance on this.
> > 
> > Pieter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 11:50 +0800, Yeri Tiete wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> jq needs a lot of improvements (do we have the spare time, in 15
> days?) and will need optimisation per mobile device. 
> >> Probably want to give users the option to return to the old
> interface as well for now. 
> >> Due to jq's nature to load all pages (well, it's just one page), we
> need to test its performance over slow and unstable networks (gprs).
> >> 
> >> We should have a fair user base to test new layouts as well. Any
> way to get a bunch of trustworthy beta-testers? Who'll provide us with
> feedback. And perhaps write blog posts about the new
> features/layouts/... ? :P
> >> 
> >> I contacted Lenzo Robijn, the FB page owner of the commuters'
> strike to get in touch with us.
> >> 
> >> Who will we proactively send to press release to? And it probably
> should be online somewhere as well (create PressRelease page on our
> wiki?) 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Yeri Tiete
> >> yeri at tiete.be
> >> www.yeri.be
> >> +32 (0)474/61.01.39
> >> 
> >> On 31 Oct 2010, at 07:06, Pieter Colpaert wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hey list,
> >> > 
> >> > I think Koen makes a pretty good point. We should show a button
> on the
> >> > mobile site for supporting a virtual strike. In meantime we
> should as
> >> > well release a new mobile webdesign based on jquery mobile
> (example
> >> > proof of concept here http://dev.irail.be/jq ), and go for a
> press
> >> > release.
> >> > 
> >> > Proposal to press-release and thus what we should implement and
> >> > accomplish by then:
> >> > * On the 15th of November iRail will do a virtual strike. This
> means on
> >> > that day you'll be able to go to the site and click a button.
> This way
> >> > you'll show your support for a better national railway company
> with less
> >> > striking days.
> >> > * On the 15th of November the iRail team will be launching their
> new
> >> > interface which should be finger-friendly and optimized for
> iPhone,
> >> > iPad, android, symbian, and other mobile devices.
> >> > * iRail remains by the people for the people and is developing
> native
> >> > apps called BeTrains, which is already available for android and
> soon
> >> > for iPhone, Nokia devices, samsung phones and windows mobile.
> >> > * If any developer wants to use trainschedules on their website
> or
> >> > somewhere else, they can do that through the API:
> http://api.iRail.be
> >> > * iRail is a community project and anyone is welcome to help out
> on
> >> > project.iRail.be. There are a lot of interesting things about to
> happen.
> >> > 
> >> > I really need your feedback on this one. Is this the right thing
> to do?
> >> > We should as well in some way work together with the facebook
> guys or at
> >> > least inform them that we're doing this. Can anyone contact them
> and
> >> > give them a link to this mailinglist post or maybe give them my
> e-mail
> >> > address? Anyone has any better/other idea that might be worth
> >> > considering?
> >> > 
> >> > Thanks a lot and before I forget to mention it: this community
> rocks.
> >> > 
> >> > Pieter
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 07:43 +0200, Koen Delvaux wrote:
> >> >> Commutere strike initiative is doomed to fail:
> >> >> Bad communication, bad activism and too much effort demanded
> from the
> >> >> participant.
> >> >> 
> >> >> BUT
> >> >> 
> >> >> Idea for press release:
> >> >> 
> >> >> Irail organises virtual commuters strike
> >> >> 
> >> >> Besides the commuters strike, there is also a virtual strike.
> People
> >> >> who use the irail.be application daily to know if their train
> wil be
> >> >> arriving on time will see a "virtual strike" button in their
> >> >> application on the day of the commuters strike. With this
> button,
> >> >> users can express their desire to go on strike against the union
> >> >> actions of nmbs/sncb.
> >> >> The virtual strike has been organised on popular request of the
> irail
> >> >> users. The irail team expects that as much as 60% of their users
> will
> >> >> participate in the virtual strike.
> >> >> By organising this action, the team behind irail wants to
> express
> >> >> their sympathy with customers who are disgrunted by the latest
> actions
> >> >> from nmbs/sncb unions.
> >> >> 
> >> >> If you think this is feasible I think it can get some press
> attention
> >> >> if we seed it. Details have to be looked up (is it on monday? Is
> it
> >> >> against unions or against sncb/nmbs? I didn't quite follow :))
> >> >> 
> >> >> Greets,
> >> >> 
> >> >> Koen
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Oct 30, 2010 2:06 AM, "Pieter Colpaert"
> <pieter.colpaert at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> Hi List,
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> on the 15th of November some people got the idea of having a
> >> >> commuters
> >> >>> strike. The details of this are on facebook
> >> >>> (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=157172534318954) and
> enclosed
> >> >> in
> >> >>> this mail.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> My questions to our community:
> >> >>> * Do we need to do something as the iRail community?
> >> >>> * Do you have any ideas? We sure have to stay up: we can't let
> the
> >> >> user
> >> >>> experience suffer, but we can put a link on the results page.
> >> >>> * Can anyone bring me in touch (phone number, instant
> messaging,
> >> >>> email, ...) with the starter(s)?
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Any feedback welcome,
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Pieter
> >> >> 
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