[iRail] Using Miet 1: iRail.be 3.0
pieter.colpaert at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 21:52:39 UTC 2011
Hi Greet, Miet & list,
You're totally right! If everyone is ok with it, I think this will be
the main issue we'll talk about on Thursday.
On 11/21/2011 10:16 PM, Greet Derudder wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> So here's what I'm thinking. Some of the things Pieter is naming in
> his e-mail have actually occurred to me too while using the website,
> and I like where he's going with it. But I've taken another look at
> the website and purely design-wise, I think it's ok for now. It's not
> the most fantastic mobile website in the history of mobile websites,
> but it's really not bad, it does the job and it looks good. What could
> be changed is the functionality, but a redesign of iRail.be is in my
> opinion not a priority if we're thinking about what Miet could do.
> From the perspective of someone who looks more at the design side of
> things than the code behind it (because unfortunately I don't know
> much about that), and also keeping the whole branding thing in mind
> (iRail as a brand/identity vs. iRail.be as the website in se), I think
> what we could use most is a complete rethinking of the iRail style
> guide (huisstijl). Because we don't really have one actually, and a
> clear and recognisable brand identity is in my opinion almost just as
> important as the quality of the products. (When I say style guide, I
> mean a logo, colors, fonts, and other design elements that need to be
> uniform across the used media, but also the concept/mission behind
> iRail, its values, goals, ... An example is the style guide of Ghent
> University <http://www.ugent.be/nl/werken/organisatie/huisstijl>,
> documented in detail on their website.)
> If there is a style guide, it can easily be applied to everything that
> sends out the message "hello, we're iRail and this is who/what we
> are": the logo (!!), websites (irail.be <http://irail.be>,
> npo.irail.be <http://npo.irail.be>, blog.irail.be
> <http://blog.irail.be>, ...), letters, invoices and other
> administrative paperwork, business cards (!), powerpoint
> presentations, stickers and other merchandising, ... I personally
> think the importance of a uniform style in any and all communication
> cannot be stressed enough, it's what makes people remember and
> recognise iRail and what helps them get a first idea of what iRail is.
> (And coincidentally, it will also make life easier for other iRail
> people who won't have to come up with a new design for everything they
> do, from letters to powerpoint presentations and so on.)
> I think now that Miet is here, it is the perfect opportunity to tackle
> this task, and in the long run iRail could really benefit from Miets
> help in this department! :-)
> Best wishes,
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 13:06, Pieter Colpaert
> <pieter.colpaert at gmail.com <mailto:pieter.colpaert at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear iRail people,
> We need to use Miet.
> For those who haven't read: Miet is a student graphic design who
> has to work with a non-profit for her last-year studies. In
> February I assume she has to present something on her work, so
> let's make it worthwhile.
> Which projects can use her help? Until Thursday I will try to
> launch some ideas on the mailinglist open for discussion. The
> first idea:
> iRail.be 3.0
> This website is our business card. It's not our most successful
> project, but as this is "iRail.be" we'll need to do something
> special with it.
> Low-level, on client side, I think these things might be done better:
> * Full blown html5/jquery single page website
> * RDFa ("gui 3.0") for query and result pages. By doing this we
> can say: This page gives The Web information about this place
> which happens to be a station.
> At mid-level we still lack:
> * Support for vehicle information
> * Integration with foursquare and other location based social
> * "Tweet about your journey"
> * Push messages for delays
> High-level, where Miet can help, we might need a lot of help into
> building something new and innovative from scratch. Don't think
> about technology, think about what you would like in an
> application for trains, and for bus/trams/planes/... later on.
> iRail.be doesn't get used a lot (200requests/day, in comparison to
> 4000 BeTrains requests/day on android). This gives us the
> opportunity to do something special here.
> What was I thinking about? A user centric mobile app. You can log
> in using your facebook, twitter or google account (openid/oauth).
> According to your current location and your previous use of
> iRail.be, you will be able to start typing your desired journey
> while we autocomplete according to a calculated probability of
> what you might mean. For instance if I'm somewhere in the vicinity
> of Ghent, and I'm typing G, Ghent sint pieters should be
> autocompleted in the "from" field. When I'm typing A in the "to"
> field, Antwerp Central station will be autocompleted, as I did
> that journey a lot before. The part where you select date & time
> needs to be minimalised. When people are using iRail they want to
> plan their journey just in time, eg. when you want to leave in 10
> minutes. When a result is shown, it should be very easy to request
> later journeys or the last journey possible that day.
> The result page needs to be optimised. I don't only want to see
> the journeys, I also want to be able to view the train details
> (where will my train stop?) and the details & news feed about a
> station (what other trains are currently in delay? Did something
> awkward happen? What are people tweeting? Can I have a coffee
> during my 15 minute waiting time?), but these "details" should
> only become visible when I ask for them.
> The result page needs to contain a check-in button. I want iRail
> to know I took this train, and perhaps I want to automatically
> share this through facebook/twitter/google. But, when you do this,
> there will be a "present". We will inform you when you are
> eligible for an NMBS refund, we will fill out the form ourself and
> send you a PDF by mail.
> If Miet would like to help on this project, we need the graphic
> interface which will guide the user, a new graphic design for this
> new mobile website and so on. But we will also need people who
> networks, people who would like to create a refunding back-end and
> so on.
> What do you guys think?
> Kind regards,
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