[MyData & Open Data] Blog on open data ABOUT privacy

[Phil Booth]

"pre- and post-consent management" absolutely essential. One-off opt ins are
an abomination. So much so that I'd say it's safer in many circumstances to
have a definitive opt out, so you can exclude yourself form the dataset
altogether. But you still need to inform people.

 

Phil

 

From: mydata-open-data [mailto:mydata-open-data-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On
Behalf Of Mark L
Sent: 19 March 2014 16:51
To: Javier Ruiz
Cc: mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org; opennotice at googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MyData & Open Data] Blog on open data ABOUT privacy

 

Alessandro is a bit of a hero for me :-)  Thanks for the link!

 

This is also a point raised by many, like the ICO's head of policy. Iain
Bourne. 

 

It is clear (and well documented) that people make notoriously bad decisions
at the point of consent and often change their mind later but are unable to
do so.   So the whole, consent for ever system, we have now needs both pre
and post consent management to be even remotely meaningful. 

 

That being said, I am a firm believer that its not the humans that are at
fault but the stupid tech infrastructure and money grabbing data stealing
companies that are the real problem.  (but I am biased ;-)

 

- Mark

 

On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:41, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org> wrote:





Hi, I don't want to open up a huge debate (yet ;-) but! 

 

transparency and consent will only get you so far, worth looking at the wok
of Alessandro Acquisti on behavioural economics applied to privacy (quick
summary: humans seem unable to make sensible decisions)

 

http://www.ted.com/talks/alessandro_acquisti_why_privacy_matters

 

-- 
Javier Ruiz
 <mailto:javier at openrightsgroup.org> javier at openrightsgroup.org

+44(0)7877 911 412

@javierruiz

 <http://www.openrightsgroup.org/> www.OpenRightsGroup.org

 

On Wednesday, 19 March 2014 at 16:26, Mark L wrote:

Great Post Reuben, 

 

Another reason why open data about transparency over data control is so
important and an indicator of how this transparency (or Open Notice) can
solve lots of personal data problems we face today.  

 

- Mark

 

 

On 18 Mar 2014, at 16:28, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org> wrote:





Reuben Binns has posted an excellent blog on our Working Group's page on his
research around a little know open-data-set: the UK Register of Data
Controllers.  

 

The data is about what organisations declare they might do, not what they do
in practice, but it raises lots of interesting questions.

 

http://personal-data.okfn.org/blog/

 

-- 
Javier Ruiz
 <mailto:javier at openrightsgroup.org> javier at openrightsgroup.org

+44(0)7877 911 412

@javierruiz

 <http://www.openrightsgroup.org/> www.OpenRightsGroup.org

 

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