[MyData & Open Data] The Forum d’Avignon launches a Preliminary Declaration on the digital human rights #DDHN
Lancelot PECQUET
lancelot at pecquet.org
Fri Sep 26 14:55:37 UTC 2014
Dear List,
As Pierre and Lionel, I am very skeptical about this declaration.
Of course, I feel deeply concerned about human rights.
Of course, creativity and culture are very important to me.
Of course, I agree that we need to design strong universal statements about
digital, since it fundamentally changes our world.
Still.
Not only that I do not see any good reason to to tie privacy and
copyright protection in the same sentence
(see detailed analysis of interests at stake + paradoxical privacy
practices in Lionel's article
<http://scinfolex.com/2013/11/26/ivre-le-forum-davignon-veut-ecrire-une-declaration-des-droits-et-pond-une-declaration-de-guerre/>)
but a so-called "Preliminary Declaration of the Digital Human Rights"
shall not be produced like this!
Rather, in my humble opinion, it should be, first, thoroughly discussed
with the civil society (in places such as
République Citoyenne <http://republiquecitoyenne.fr/> at national level
for France for instance + OGP <http://www.opengovpartnership.org/> at
international level).
In addition, before to release a text and broadcast it worldwide in many
languages, this fundamental discussion
should take into account the significant body of knowledge that has been
produced so far (+ WIP):
* By research (NB: at national level, Fleur Pellerin annonces
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE76uH3f-VM> - at 14'30 or so - that
she wants to create a
Chair about business models and personal data but does not mention
existing French research on the
subject, e.g. the work conducted by the "Chaire Valeurs et
Politiques des informations personnelles
<http://cvpip.wp.mines-telecom.fr/>" or by
the Directorate of Science of the Mines-Télécom Institute
<http://www.mines-telecom.fr/en/>)
* by CSOs (La Quadrature du Net, Privacy International, OKF...)
* by public institutions (e.g. for France, the report produced two
weeks ago by the French Council of State, about digital
and fundamental rights
<http://www.conseil-etat.fr/fr/communiques-de-presse/etude-annuelle-2014-le-numerique-et-les-droits-fondamentaux.html>,
the work of the National Commission on Informatics and Liberty, the
ongoing
work of French Digital Council
<http://www.cnnumerique.fr/video-la-france-se-met-a-jour-pourquoi-une-concertation-numerique-video-dailymotion/>...)
Those subjects are subtle, complex and at the core of our societies:
citizens deserve better than PR.
Best,
Lancelot
Le 26/09/2014 11:35, Pierre Chrzanowski a écrit :
> Dear list,
>
> Please be aware this document emanates from a French think-thank whose
> main topic is copyright protection.
> In my opinion, the text dangerously (or ridiculously) links copyright
> authors, and personal data protection issues and as such should be
> condemned.
>
> Lionel Maurel, Public Domain specialist, gave us a good analysis on
> the initiative (text in French here
> http://scinfolex.com/2013/11/26/ivre-le-forum-davignon-veut-ecrire-une-declaration-des-droits-et-pond-une-declaration-de-guerre/
> ).
>
>
> Best
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Antti Jogi Poikola
> <antti.poikola at gmail.com <mailto:antti.poikola at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Great work, I would like to see the individuals own right to get
> and use the data about him much stronger in the declaration:
>
>
> 4. Everyone has the right to inspect and control
>
> -> inspection is something, but actual rights and means to get the
> data and use it would be highly important
>
>
>
> 6. The users of personal data,
>
> whatever their level of accountability, including States, public
> and private authorities, companies and individuals, shall show
> total transparency in the collection and use of any individual’s
> data, and *shall facilitate each individual’s access to his data*,
> as well as its traceability, confidentiality and security.
> #transparency_of_the_uses
>
> -> here the access is somewhat hidden in between many other things
> - I would like to see access and right to use in the heading level.
>
>
> -Jogi
>
>
>
> On 26 September 2014 08:33, Dazza Greenwood <dazza at civics.com
> <mailto:dazza at civics.com>> wrote:
>
> Interesting! Glad to learn of this but the file as displayed
> appears
> to be an image and (on my device at least) cuts off the text
> on the
> right margin.
>
> Can you share a link to a version of these data principles in
> plain
> simple pure text format and from an authoritative source?
>
> Thanks,
> - Dazza
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 25, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Mattias OKFSE <mattias at okfn.se
> <mailto:mattias at okfn.se>> wrote:
> >
> > Have you seen this? Can I have your inputs on it?
> > http://www.ddhn.org/index-en.php
> >
> > What do you think? If you don't like it - what would you
> change about it?
> >
> > What are your thoughts around the organisation, process for
> the document
> > drafting and the partnering organisations?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Mattias
> > Community Manager
> > Open Knowledge Sweden
> > http://okfn.se
> > https://twitter.com/okfse
> > https://quitter.se/okfse
> > https://diasp.eu/u/okfnse
> > _______________________________________________
> > mydata-open-data mailing list
> > mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org
> <mailto:mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org>
> > https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/mydata-open-data
> _______________________________________________
> mydata-open-data mailing list
> mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org
> <mailto:mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org>
> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/mydata-open-data
>
>
>
>
> --
> +358 44 337 5439 <tel:%2B358%2044%20337%205439>
> about.me/apoikola <http://about.me/apoikola>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mydata-open-data mailing list
> mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org
> <mailto:mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org>
> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/mydata-open-data
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Pierre Chrzanowski*
> *Open Data Expert*
>
> Mail : pierre.chrzanowski at gmail.com <mailto:pierre.chrzanowski at gmail.com>
> Skype : pierre.chrzanowski | Twitter : @pzwsk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mydata-open-data mailing list
> mydata-open-data at lists.okfn.org
> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/mydata-open-data
--
Lancelot PECQUET - http://lancelot.pecquet.org - @LancelotPecquet
<http://twitter.com/LancelotPecquet>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/mydata-open-data/attachments/20140926/4451b333/attachment-0003.html>
More information about the mydata-open-data
mailing list