[ok-scotland] Fwd: first board meeting?

stuart macdonald stuart.macdonald at ed.ac.uk
Mon Jul 5 10:59:02 UTC 2010


Hi Angus -  Whilst I'd agree that it would seem sensible that 
organisations that espouse openness do practice what they preach my 
comment was meant more in a general sense and not specific to OKF. 
Certain organisations for certain reasons cannot or may not choose to be 
transparent. The triumvirate of open source, open access, open data are 
technological ideologies and in that sense are seen as facilitatory to 
those who wish to use/practice them. In my mind whether an organisation 
wishes to make public balance sheets, budgets, governance structures is 
a separate matter.

cheers
Stuart




On 05/07/2010 00:12, Angus Whyte wrote:
> The Edinburgh meeting was the first time I'd done anything connected 
> with OKF. I also enjoyed the meeting and would like to be involved in 
> others I think. If other lists are better places to discuss why it 
> makes sense to be part of OKF or not fine. It may be a truism that 
> what and how things gets decided depends on 'who turns up' more than 
> any formal governance process, but if the point of having meetings in 
> Scotland is to be able to turn up it seems to me governance shouldn't 
> be off-topic. I disagree with Stuart on organisational transparency 
> and 'open data' are separate issues - the one provides the context for 
> (and limits of) the other.
>
> Having followed Jonathan's links I find the OKF governance page vague. 
> I see OKF is legally a limited company, presumably without share 
> capital, and in more general terms is about ' open discussion, 
> meritocracy and tolerance'. I've been involved enough with a few 
> associations to be bored stupid by discussion of articles of 
> association and the like, but agree with Paola that the OKF site could 
> be more helpful on how people get on its board, who gets to spend its 
> money and so on. I am defintely not interested in discussing the 
> details on this list or any other, but if OKF has a 'memorandum and 
> articles of association' why can't they be made available, like (say) 
> Wikimedia does ?
>
> Angus
>
>
> On 30/06/2010 19:39, Phil Barker wrote:
>> On 30/06/10 17:11, Andres Guadamuz wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as OK-Scotland, as Robin stated, this is just 
>>> a mailing list of people in a common geographical area who might 
>>> want to organise events together.
>>
>> That's what I thought OK-Scotland was. I can see the sense of a 
>> Scottish group within OKF, to organise meetings that are convenient 
>> for people in Scotland to go to and to discuss issues devolved to the 
>> Scottish Government.  I really enjoyed the first one and would be 
>> willing to help organise others (especially one focussed on 
>> education). But it only makes sense to me if it is part of OKF.
>>
>> Phil
>>
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