[ok-scotland] Cities and open data

[David Stafford]

Hello Maire,
 
Can I just interject, one thing I did not see in your list, which is -
what the proviso would be in a situation where you identify your "list
of key data sets that we (you) and others would like to see prioritised
for release" what is the proviso, when one or more of the desired data
sets simply does not exist at some, many, or even all of the cities in
question - or, are you talking about choosing from lists of existing
datasets already published by these cities (which, if I had to guess -
mostly do not exist???).
 
I just wondered - I think it's an important point, you can't easily
prioritise something that literally does not exist :-)  - as you know.
 
So I personally, would have written this list:
 

1)	  If the specific datasets mentioned would be of interest to you
/ your organisation and how you would use them
2)	  Other city level data you / your organisation would like to
see prioritised for release and why
 
This way, instead:
 

1)	 	Does this information exist at the city level in the 64
cities we are interested in?  If not, how will we proceed for items /
data sets that we want, but, that do not exist?
2)		 If the specific datasets mentioned would be of interest
to you / your organisation and how you would use them?
3) 	   Other city level data you / your organisation would like to
see prioritised for release and why - again, if extant?
 
 
 
Just a thought, I could be way off the mark, and if I am - my
apologies.
 
I would never assume that data is there, unless you've checked - in
which case, then it's just not clear in the email that you are working
from a list of existing data sets.
 
 
 

All the very best,
 
Dave Stafford 
 
 
 

>>> Maire Williams <M.Williams at centreforcities.org> 27/01/2015 13:54
>>>

Hi all,
 
I’ve just joined this mailing list and wanted to introduce myself and
ask for feedback on a project I’m working on. I work as a researcher at
Centre for Cities, which looks at the economic performance of the UKs 64
largest cities. We’re interested in open data as the amount of timely,
robust data available at a city level is limited, and this impacts on
our and Governments ability to understand the issues individuals cities
face and develop efficient policies that overcome these. We published a
report outlining the benefits from open data policies to cities 
(http://www.centreforcities.org/publication/open-data-or-closed-doors/)
and are now building on this to come up with a list of key data sets
that we and others would like to see prioritised for release.
 
I’ve attached a short note that outlines what data we would like to see
prioritised for release and why. It would be great if you could have a
read through and get back to me with comments on:
 
1)	  If the specific datasets mentioned would be of interest to you
/ your organisation and how you would use them
2)	  Other city level data you / your organisation would like to
see prioritised for release and why
 
Our aim is to come up with a short list of key data sets that we would
then campaign for the relevant parties to release.
 
Any feedback you have would be appreciated,
 
Many thanks,
Maire
 
Maire Williams
Researcher
@WilliamsMaire
( https://twitter.com/WilliamsMaire) 
Centre for Cities, Enterprise House, 59-65 Upper Ground, London. SE1
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