[@OKau] "High value" datasets

Wed Apr 15 01:57:24 UTC 2015

I found this thread really useful too and want to encourage people to share their experiences working with open data on the list as it seems sometimes people may be reticent to post because they think we are not interested in their particular experiences. I find people sharing their work on open data incredibly useful given I am 'outside' the system. 
Thanks for the EU report Cassie- found it extremely readable and great background.

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:54:41 +1000
From: findlay.cassie at gmail.com
To: okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
Subject: Re: [@OKau] "High value" datasets

Thanks everyone! Really appreciate all these leads. If I come across any other interesting models I'll share here too
Cassie

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
Oh! I'd forgotten about that. I'd even made comments that were answered, but I never saw the answers. Have changed disqus settings accordingly. 

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On 15 April 2015 at 07:10, Steven De Costa <steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au> wrote:
Vic data already has the disqus comment block on datasets. It also has a suggest dataset form. I think Lachlan was just suggesting to use these features...
The standard and extended google stats are also on that site. One thing that skews stats is that some datasets can be important but only need to downloaded once or twice by a developer. This might include GIS shape files that aren't expected to be updated often. Or budget info published annually.

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On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Paul Walsh <paulywalsh at gmail.com> wrote:
Lachlan,
The issues extension may be a good candidate for that: https://github.com/okfn/ckanext-issues

On 14 Apr 2015, at 15:39, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
I would love to see some sort of commenting on our local CKAN install at data.vic.gov.au, so we could work through data sets methodically and give feedback on quality. It should be a conversation rather than a firehose, and the CKAN install is the best place for that to happen. IMHOL.
On Apr 14, 2015 20:28, "Rebecca Cameron" <rcameron.bis at gmail.com> wrote:
Cassie 
There are two ways this issue was dealt with when I worked for
Qld Gov, both primarily related to the use of the data. In theory some datasets could by academic defition be high value but if no one even opens the dataset it has little value. Therefore value was measured in terms of use. 
1. CKAN allows for departments to measure page hits and down
loads. Initially this process was performed manually so we could gauge which
datasets added value and which datasets needed maturing or more frequent
updating. From experience these measures are best-read 3 months after initial
publication as the initial hits are usually because the data is newly
published. I would hope in the last 6 months the capabilities of CKAN to
provide this information has matured and most open data platforms should be
able to provide this data. Qld Gov also publish on open data page-views by
month see https://data.qld.gov.au/dataset/visitor-statistics-data-qld-gov-au 
2. The reverse way of reading the questions is which datasets
should be published first by departments because of their high public value. In
setting the list of priority publications for a Qld Gov department a brief
investigation was undertaken of page hits and downloads of data and information published on
the departments website coupled together with records of requests for
information both under FOI and researcher requests. This allowed for the most
"valuable" datasets to be published. Bear in mind that the data being
published related to the social services and had a particular researcher
interest.
In respect of the 5-star deployment scheme for Open Data all of the departments data was assessed against this schema and amended to meet the star rating. There is an OD form which accompanies this rating, but Qld Gov weren't ready to complete these. I hope this helps. 
RegardsRebecca

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Cassie Findlay <findlay.cassie at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all

Has anyone come across good criteria or defined methods for identifying 'high value' datasets? If, for example, you are looking at a whole of government jurisdiction. I found some in this EU report but would like to gather some more. 

I realise that value is a highly subjective thing to assert (valuable for whom, why?) and really like Rosie's work on defining the problems first, in order to then work out where you might find datasets of value, but all that aside :) - are there examples out there of work to define high value stuff?

Many thanks

Cassie Findlay

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