[@OKau] "High value" datasets

Wed Apr 15 02:20:44 UTC 2015

One other measure of value I didn't see in the EU report is comparability
(perhaps that would fall under transparency). The best example is the open
data index:

Global: http://index.okfn.org/

Australian Region: http://australia.census.okfn.org/

Australian Cities: http://au-city.census.okfn.org/

The value is not measured by any single dataset release, but the combined
value of having all datasets available within a topic area so that
comparisons can be made.

Publishing under commons standards in such a situation has great value,
which is where W3C efforts are heading. You can read the data on the web
best practices draft here: http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/

Cheers,
Steven

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On 15 April 2015 at 11:57, Rosie Williams <budgetaus at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I found this thread really useful too and want to encourage people to
> share their experiences working with open data on the list as it seems
> sometimes people may be reticent to post because they think we are not
> interested in their particular experiences. I find people sharing their
> work on open data incredibly useful given I am 'outside' the system.
>
> Thanks for the EU report Cassie- found it extremely readable and great
> background.
>
> Rosie Williams BA (Sociology)
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> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:54:41 +1000
> From: findlay.cassie at gmail.com
> To: okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
> Subject: Re: [@OKau] "High value" datasets
>
>
> Thanks everyone! Really appreciate all these leads. If I come across any
> other interesting models I'll share here too
> Cassie
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Oh! I'd forgotten about that. I'd even made comments that were answered,
> but I never saw the answers. Have changed disqus settings accordingly.
>
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> On 15 April 2015 at 07:10, Steven De Costa <
> steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au> wrote:
>
> Vic data already has the disqus comment block on datasets. It also has a
> suggest dataset form. I think Lachlan was just suggesting to use these
> features...
>
> The standard and extended google stats are also on that site. One thing
> that skews stats is that some datasets can be important but only need to
> downloaded once or twice by a developer. This might include GIS shape files
> that aren't expected to be updated often. Or budget info published annually.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven
>
> On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Paul Walsh <paulywalsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lachlan,
>
> The issues extension may be a good candidate for that:
> https://github.com/okfn/ckanext-issues
>
>
> On 14 Apr 2015, at 15:39, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would love to see some sort of commenting on our local CKAN install at
> data.vic.gov.au, so we could work through data sets methodically and give
> feedback on quality. It should be a conversation rather than a firehose,
> and the CKAN install is the best place for that to happen. IMHO
>
> L.
> On Apr 14, 2015 20:28, "Rebecca Cameron" <rcameron.bis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cassie
>
>
> There are two ways this issue was dealt with when I worked for Qld Gov,
> both primarily related to the use of the data. In theory some datasets
> could by academic defition be high value but if no one even opens the
> dataset it has little value. Therefore value was measured in terms of use.
>
>
> 1. CKAN allows for departments to measure page hits and down loads.
> Initially this process was performed manually so we could gauge which
> datasets added value and which datasets needed maturing or more frequent
> updating. From experience these measures are best-read 3 months after
> initial publication as the initial hits are usually because the data is
> newly published. I would hope in the last 6 months the capabilities of CKAN
> to provide this information has matured and most open data platforms should
> be able to provide this data. Qld Gov also publish on open data page-views
> by month see
> https://data.qld.gov.au/dataset/visitor-statistics-data-qld-gov-au
>
>
> 2. The reverse way of reading the questions is which datasets should be
> published first by departments because of their high public value. In
> setting the list of priority publications for a Qld Gov department a brief
> investigation was undertaken of page hits and downloads of data and
> information published on the departments website coupled together with
> records of requests for information both under FOI and researcher requests.
> This allowed for the most "valuable" datasets to be published. Bear in mind
> that the data being published related to the social services and had a
> particular researcher interest.
>
>
> In respect of the 5-star deployment scheme for Open Data all of the
> departments data was assessed against this schema and amended to meet the
> star rating. There is an OD form which accompanies this rating, but Qld Gov
> weren't ready to complete these.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Rebecca
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Cassie Findlay <findlay.cassie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Has anyone come across good criteria or defined methods for identifying
> 'high value' datasets? If, for example, you are looking at a whole of
> government jurisdiction. I found some in this EU report
> <http://ec.europa.eu/isa/documents/publications/report-on-high-value-datasets-from-eu-institutions_en.pdf>
> but would like to gather some more.
>
> I realise that value is a highly subjective thing to assert (valuable for
> whom, why?) and really like Rosie's work on defining the problems first, in
> order to then work out where you might find datasets of value, but all that
> aside :) - are there examples out there of work to define high value stuff?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Cassie Findlay
>
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