[@OKau] care and consensus

Cobi Alison Smith cobi.smith at unimelb.edu.au
Mon Apr 27 01:20:11 UTC 2015

thank you Steven - I appreciate your sharing :)

which leads me to share this:

the irony that I'm in effect promoting classical economics does not escape me. (I'm speaking to my 19 yo self reading Naomi Klein's 'No Logo' and Anita Roddick's 'Globalization: Take It Personally' here)

I wish someone had introduced me to Elinor Ostrom's Governing the Commons earlier. (Since I'm now talking to myself, I'll get offlist)

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Nic Gruen passed on the following quote in relation to a different discussion the other day, perhaps relevant to the discussion on creating a forum for consensus being by its nature a forum for collusion.

“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
Adam Smith - The Wealth of Nations


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On 27 April 2015 at 10:23, Cobi Alison Smith <cobi.smith at unimelb.edu.au<mailto:cobi.smith at unimelb.edu.au>> wrote:
Hey folks,

I'm citing this paper in my PhD
and have been talking about it with people from some maker communities I've been involved with.

I'm citing it in a section of my PhD in which I talk about the need for processes that support diversity rather than consensus, as consensus can silence, alienate or otherwise marginalise people and undermine critical thinking skills and tolerance. The new WA climate consensus centre is a demonstration of how consensus may involve implicit motivations and alienate people. The paper I share above is interesting as it discusses how organizers of a hackerspace recognize they have diversity problems, they also acknowledge that consensus has been challenging, but continue with it as a core value in decisionmaking (which I consider alongside international development studies in which consensus has been associated with oppression).

Steve I appreciated the article you wrote about the value of projects as outcomes of hackathons, so hope you didn't see my contribution about the value of learning/sharing as outcomes of hackathons as in opposition to that - perhaps I should have started by thanking you and saying I appreciated you sharing what you did, as it led me to craft my thoughts on what I value from hackathons :)

I think it's a good thing that the open knowledge community in Australia is growing to the extent that there are people with diverse perspectives expressing their experiences and values and outcomes. I hope that diversity is reflected in private discussions and decisionmaking at management level.

Best wishes, Cobi

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