[@OKau] Move from the mailing list to the new OK Forum?

Fri Jun 5 09:47:50 UTC 2015

I think this might help communicate Rosie's point:
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/06/03/we-should-demand-more-from-open-than-just-data-thoughts-on-the-international-open-data-conference/

Either way I think we are lucky to have a very grass roots group in OKAU
right now. Plenty of room for everyone to contribute and do good work :)

On Friday, June 5, 2015, Paul Walsh <paulywalsh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Back to Stephen Gates’ original suggestion:
>
> The one take home I have from this thread is that an OKau forum would be
> able to:
>
> 1. Replace this mailing list, with a category that matches the general
> agenda of this mailing list (specialist/core whatever)
> 2. Provide a platform for our categories (lists) that are less
> specialised, and/or topical in nature. This could provide more friendly
> entry points for discussions that are less technological/domain-driven, and
> more topical: eg: immigration, domestic violence, government spend,
> education - whatever need arises based on the people who come and get
> involved.
>
> Remember: Discourse, the software, provides full “mailing list”
> functionality, as well as the “forum” web interface.
>
> I’m not sure if the OK international discourse instance is the best place
> for all that - maybe yes, maybe no.
>
> If not, I’d be willing to set this up as an au-specific forum, if there is
> general agreement on the utility. I’m not sure if OKAU has servers, or if
> this is something we can ask from OKI. I can also follow that up if there
> is interest. While I could set it up, there would have to be some other
> backup from the community to maintain the server, if the need arises.
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2015, at 10:31, Rosie Williams <budgetaus at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','budgetaus at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I agree that Paul didn't make the claim that I don't appreciate the
> humanity in developers, that was just my interpretation of his statement
> that my view of developers was 'flat'. This message has been trimmed so I
> can't easily check on his actual wording and that I have not again
> mis-stated his words but I don't want Paul or others to think I am happy to
> have them feel they have been mischaracterised by me here, at least not
> deliberately.
>
> I agree that specifying/defining audiences matters which I feel was the
> point I was trying to make and with which it appeared to me Paul disagreed,
> quite vehemently. People here are welcome to disagree with me, I hope my
> opinions can stand up to scrutiny and if I am convinced otherwise then I
> can change my view.
>
> While I'm at it I should also mention that when I critique the focus on
> developers in the open data community I do not mean to disregard our
> contribution. I did not make that clear earlier and I am aware that
> repeatedly restating my critique might cause people to feel the work of
> developers in open knowledge is not something I appreciate. This is not my
> intention and I ought to make that clear in future.
>
> cheers,
>
> Rosie Williams BA (Sociology)
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> From: paulywalsh at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','paulywalsh at gmail.com');>
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:47:44 +0300
> To: okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
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> Subject: Re: [@OKau] Move from the mailing list to the new OK Forum?
>
> Hi Rosie,
>
> You are now saying things that I didn’t say, eg, that I claimed you don’t
> see humanity in developers, so, I’m not going to take the discussion
> further. The general gist of what I’m saying is: (1) there is no “general
> public”, and so any attempts at engagement need to be quite a lot more
> subtle in defining the audience to engage with, in my opinion, and (2)
> every field has specialists and non-specialists, technical or otherwise -
> nothing new to see here.
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2015, at 09:27, Rosie Williams <budgetaus at hotmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','budgetaus at hotmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> consider
>
>
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