[@OKau] Move from the mailing list to the new OK Forum?

Sat Jun 6 02:54:04 UTC 2015

FWIW and late to the discussion I like the list as it is, so I'm glad it's
not going away. Its general nature and ability of members to raise any
topic or question is great. I often suggest to people I encounter who are
not in 'the community' but who are doing open data stuff (eg govt agency
ppl, tech and non tech) that they drop in & see what's being discussed.
Cheers
Cassie

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Steven De Costa <
steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au> wrote:

> I think this might help communicate Rosie's point:
> http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/06/03/we-should-demand-more-from-open-than-just-data-thoughts-on-the-international-open-data-conference/
>
> Either way I think we are lucky to have a very grass roots group in OKAU
> right now. Plenty of room for everyone to contribute and do good work :)
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2015, Paul Walsh <paulywalsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Back to Stephen Gates’ original suggestion:
>>
>> The one take home I have from this thread is that an OKau forum would be
>> able to:
>>
>> 1. Replace this mailing list, with a category that matches the general
>> agenda of this mailing list (specialist/core whatever)
>> 2. Provide a platform for our categories (lists) that are less
>> specialised, and/or topical in nature. This could provide more friendly
>> entry points for discussions that are less technological/domain-driven, and
>> more topical: eg: immigration, domestic violence, government spend,
>> education - whatever need arises based on the people who come and get
>> involved.
>>
>> Remember: Discourse, the software, provides full “mailing list”
>> functionality, as well as the “forum” web interface.
>>
>> I’m not sure if the OK international discourse instance is the best place
>> for all that - maybe yes, maybe no.
>>
>> If not, I’d be willing to set this up as an au-specific forum, if there
>> is general agreement on the utility. I’m not sure if OKAU has servers, or
>> if this is something we can ask from OKI. I can also follow that up if
>> there is interest. While I could set it up, there would have to be some
>> other backup from the community to maintain the server, if the need arises.
>>
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2015, at 10:31, Rosie Williams <budgetaus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I agree that Paul didn't make the claim that I don't appreciate the
>> humanity in developers, that was just my interpretation of his statement
>> that my view of developers was 'flat'. This message has been trimmed so I
>> can't easily check on his actual wording and that I have not again
>> mis-stated his words but I don't want Paul or others to think I am happy to
>> have them feel they have been mischaracterised by me here, at least not
>> deliberately.
>>
>> I agree that specifying/defining audiences matters which I feel was the
>> point I was trying to make and with which it appeared to me Paul disagreed,
>> quite vehemently. People here are welcome to disagree with me, I hope my
>> opinions can stand up to scrutiny and if I am convinced otherwise then I
>> can change my view.
>>
>> While I'm at it I should also mention that when I critique the focus on
>> developers in the open data community I do not mean to disregard our
>> contribution. I did not make that clear earlier and I am aware that
>> repeatedly restating my critique might cause people to feel the work of
>> developers in open knowledge is not something I appreciate. This is not my
>> intention and I ought to make that clear in future.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Rosie Williams BA (Sociology)
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>> ------------------------------
>> From: paulywalsh at gmail.com
>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:47:44 +0300
>> To: okfn-au at lists.okfn.org
>> Subject: Re: [@OKau] Move from the mailing list to the new OK Forum?
>>
>> Hi Rosie,
>>
>> You are now saying things that I didn’t say, eg, that I claimed you don’t
>> see humanity in developers, so, I’m not going to take the discussion
>> further. The general gist of what I’m saying is: (1) there is no “general
>> public”, and so any attempts at engagement need to be quite a lot more
>> subtle in defining the audience to engage with, in my opinion, and (2)
>> every field has specialists and non-specialists, technical or otherwise -
>> nothing new to see here.
>>
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2015, at 09:27, Rosie Williams <budgetaus at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> consider
>>
>>
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