[okfn-be] Fwd: Géomatique Wallonne - strategic plan

Tue Mar 25 17:01:31 UTC 2014

Hi all,

This was our final answer.

Thank you for all input!

Kind regards,

Pieter, Philippe, Julien and Andy

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Subject: 	Re: [OSM-talk-be] Géomatique Wallonne - strategic plan
Date: 	Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:34:36 +0100
From: 	Julien Fastré <julien at fastre.info>
Reply-To: 	OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be at openstreetmap.org>
To: 	talk-be at openstreetmap.org

Hi,

We sent our opinion yesterday (thanks to Philippe).

You may read  the final document here : 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgian_OSM_contributor_Opinion_to_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_geomatique_wallonne.pdf

Julien

(I do not understand why my links are transformed into pictures... I use 
the [[File:xyz.pdf]] but this does not appears as a <a > tag...

Le 23/03/14 22:41, Julien Fastré a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> With the great help of Philippe Duchesnes, we wrote a single an common 
> review of the PSGW.
>
> Could you give us some comments before we send this ? Our deadline is 
> very short (this monday, end afternoon - the initial text was 
> submitted to our wiki).
>
> The RC text : 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGZZndpoLEgJuT5fvVv6IkjaLKy6D43l5CUnTBo4z4g/edit?usp=sharing
>
> The PSGW itself : 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/7/7b/Projet_de_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_g%C3%A9omatique_pour_la_Wallonie_%28Belgique%29.pdf
>
> Thanks,
> Julien
>
> Le 15/03/14 12:16, Julien Fastré a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ben, Pieter,
>>
>> I do not have any opposition as joining OKFN and OSM opinion in one 
>> document. I thought it was more strategic to have two voices, but I 
>> am not sure this reasoning match with reality.
>>
>> I propose to write differently the chapter about "open source" in a 
>> way which is more pragmatic. I might do this at the beginning of the 
>> week.
>>
>> OK ?
>>
>> Or I delete this chapter completely ?
>>
>> @Jo: the permission to trace from WMS is included in our request to 
>> open data globally. I also have contacts which focus more on web 
>> services. But I will mention the persmissions of Brussels and 
>> Flanders (the advance of wallonie and brussels is a quite good 
>> arguments with our politics :-) ).
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>> Le 15/03/14 12:04, Jo a écrit :
>>> Hi Julien,
>>>
>>> You mention we have permission to trace from Bing. In the mean time 
>>> we have better imagery (higher resolution, more recent) in Flanders 
>>> and Brussels provided by AGIV, which we are also allowed to trace. 
>>> We also have permission to, if I understood correctly, to use their 
>>> WMS (or is that CRAB) to trace/verify street names and house numbers.
>>>
>>> Maybe the Region Wallonne can do one better by allowing us to 
>>> trace/reuse building outlines :-) like in Brussels Region.
>>>
>>> Open data and Open source are two orthogonal subjects, one can 
>>> proces opendata with closed source software or closed data with open 
>>> source software. We have a preference for software under free 
>>> licenses, but everybody should be able/allowed to use whatever 
>>> software they please and can afford as long as they comply with the 
>>> licenses.
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-15 11:53 GMT+01:00 Ben Abelshausen 
>>> <ben.abelshausen at gmail.com <mailto:ben.abelshausen at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>     First of all Julien: thanks for all your hard work and
>>>     enthusiasm in taking on this task! :-)
>>>
>>>     I think it is pretty obvious that we would want to promote usage
>>>     of open-source as well but I think this is something that is not
>>>     the task of our community.
>>>
>>>     We can recommend using open-source tools but the argument
>>>     against opening data cannot ever be 'open-data is not possible
>>>     because then we would have to use open-source software'. I think
>>>     we should be very very clear that these two are different. An
>>>     excel document with nice juicy open-data is still a good thing.
>>>
>>>     But we can still recommend using open-source tools, we just have
>>>     to be careful about how this is done in this document.
>>>
>>>     Also: We should be careful about positioning the OSM project in
>>>     Belgium as a project that wants to collect/incorporate open-data
>>>     sets. We are about collecting data in the form of mapping the
>>>     world, not about collecting open-geo-data sets. That was an
>>>     argument for me to join everything with OKFN into one document.
>>>
>>>     Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>     Best regards,
>>>
>>>     Ben Abelshausen
>>>
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