[okfn-br] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

Quinta Setembro 18 16:41:08 UTC 2014

+1 for OK International.  Seems to have the right ring to it.

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On 18 Sep 2014, at 17:27, Irina Bolychevsky <irina.bolychevsky em okfn.org> wrote:

I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)

Ira

> On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
> Naomi and all,tonal
> 
> these observations are good. I like best the idea of Open Knowledge Internation (OKInternational) instead. Already used this name in an e-mail I just sent in another conversation. I'll use OKInternational, but sure will listen to other ideas to come until we find a consensus. :)
> 
> P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in other planets, I suggest change to Open Knowledge Universal, if there isn't one already or planets where we don't need to open up knowledge created by these exotic aliens.
> 
> P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University of São Paulo, at the Clock Square it is written "In the universe of culture the center is everywhere", said by Miguel Reale. I'd say the same for the commons of knowledge. :)
> 
> Tom
> 
> 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>:
>> Hi Tom & all,
>> 
>> Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
>> 
>> To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open Knowledge Global' implies we would then speak for all the global groups, as a sort of collective or overall representative of all the individual Chapters, Local Groups, Working Groups and other community groups and individuals. As you know, this may not always be appropriate - different groups have different aims and methods, and - for example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to write a thought-leadership blog on successful lobbying, that could damage the reputation of groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as anarchic or subversive. 'Central' seems more representative of a supportive administrative hub, which I would say is closer to my understanding of the role the non-profit organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to undertake.
>> 
>> On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of Open Knowledge (if there is, I want the key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't dictate what groups do or say, the lines of communication aren't radiating out from a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre'; 'global' allows for a more amorphous cloud of multiple communication streams, and less hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has sometimes given the impression that the most usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet - London, Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in the case of London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that there is no established Local Group, and many people assume 'OKCentral' is the same as 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to address this misconception and/or help us move away from this habit.
>> 
>> There are examples of other organisations and communities being called 'international' - for example Amnesty International and Greenpeace International - perhaps people involved in those groups could share information about what the 'international' there implies and means in practise, and we could see whether that model fits with what we all are or hope to be?
>> 
>> I would love to hear more from people on this list about what you think and/or have experienced, as well as Local Group and Working Group leaders - here looping in on CC.
>> 
>> Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
>> 
>> Naomi (speaking for myself only)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano <julio em sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>> +1
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <nh em nhasive.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter Colpaert <pieter.colpaert em okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus Pollock" <rufus.pollock em okfn.org>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very good suggestion Tom - we sort of fell into the "Central" by accident (btw it was always intended to convey coordination and support rather than direction).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If others were happy with the "Global" moniker rather than "Central" I think this would make perfect sense as a change.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I believe for we work as a network, we shouldn't have a center. Thus I'd like to suggest henceforth to call Open Knowledge Central of Open Knowledge Global (OKCentral -> OKGlobal). And we work hard to work in this way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> 
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