[okfn-br] [OKFN-Local-Coord] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

alberto abella alberto.abella em okfn.es
Sábado Setembro 20 21:08:19 UTC 2014


+1 OK international

On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 17:27 +0100, Irina Bolychevsky wrote:
> I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)
> 
> 
> 
> Ira
> 
> 
> On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
> <tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
> 
>         Naomi and all,
>         
>         
>         
>         these observations are good. I like best the idea of Open
>         Knowledge Internation (OKInternational) instead. Already used
>         this name in an e-mail I just sent in another conversation.
>         I'll use OKInternational, but sure will listen to other ideas
>         to come until we find a consensus. :)
>         
>         
>         
>         P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in other
>         planets, I suggest change to Open Knowledge Universal, if
>         there isn't one already or planets where we don't need to open
>         up knowledge created by these exotic aliens.
>         
>         
>         
>         P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University of São
>         Paulo, at the Clock Square it is written "In the universe of
>         culture the center is everywhere", said by Miguel Reale. I'd
>         say the same for the commons of knowledge. :)
>         
>         
>         
>         Tom
>         
>         
>         
>         2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie
>         <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>:
>         
>                 Hi Tom & all,
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
>                 
>                 
>                 To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open
>                 Knowledge Global' implies we would then speak for all
>                 the global groups, as a sort of collective or overall
>                 representative of all the individual Chapters, Local
>                 Groups, Working Groups and other community groups and
>                 individuals. As you know, this may not always be
>                 appropriate - different groups have different aims and
>                 methods, and - for example - if 'Open Knowledge
>                 Global' were to write a thought-leadership blog on
>                 successful lobbying, that could damage the reputation
>                 of groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as
>                 anarchic or subversive. 'Central' seems more
>                 representative of a supportive administrative hub,
>                 which I would say is closer to my understanding of the
>                 role the non-profit organisation currently undertakes,
>                 or seeks to undertake.
>                 
>                 
>                 On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of
>                 Open Knowledge (if there is, I want the key!!). The
>                 non-profit organisation doesn't dictate what groups do
>                 or say, the lines of communication aren't radiating
>                 out from a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around
>                 the centre'; 'global' allows for a more amorphous
>                 cloud of multiple communication streams, and less
>                 hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has sometimes
>                 given the impression that the most usual geographic
>                 location for OKCentral to meet - London, Berlin or
>                 Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in
>                 the case of London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated
>                 by the fact that there is no established Local Group,
>                 and many people assume 'OKCentral' is the same as
>                 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to
>                 address this misconception and/or help us move away
>                 from this habit.
>                 
>                 
>                 There are examples of other organisations and
>                 communities being called 'international' - for example
>                 Amnesty International and Greenpeace International -
>                 perhaps people involved in those groups could share
>                 information about what the 'international' there
>                 implies and means in practise, and we could see
>                 whether that model fits with what we all are or hope
>                 to be?
>                 
>                 
>                 I would love to hear more from people on this list
>                 about what you think and/or have experienced, as well
>                 as Local Group and Working Group leaders - here
>                 looping in on CC.
>                 
>                 
>                 Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
>                 
>                 
>                 Naomi (speaking for myself only)
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano
>                 <julio em sfsu.edu> wrote:
>                 
>                         +1 
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive
>                         <nh em nhasive.com> wrote:
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         > +1
>                         > 
>                         > 
>                         > 
>                         > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter
>                         > Colpaert <pieter.colpaert em okfn.org> wrote:
>                         > 
>                         >         +1
>                         >         
>                         >         
>                         >         Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus
>                         >         Pollock" <rufus.pollock em okfn.org>: 
>                         >         
>                         >         
>                         >         
>                         >                 Very good suggestion Tom -
>                         >                 we sort of fell into the
>                         >                 "Central" by accident (btw
>                         >                 it was always intended to
>                         >                 convey coordination and
>                         >                 support rather than
>                         >                 direction). 
>                         >                 
>                         >                 
>                         >                 
>                         >                 If others were happy with
>                         >                 the "Global" moniker rather
>                         >                 than "Central" I think this
>                         >                 would make perfect sense as
>                         >                 a change.
>                         >                 
>                         >                 
>                         >                 Regards,
>                         >                 
>                         >                 
>                         >                 Rufus
>                         >                 
>                         >                 
>                         >                 On 13 September 2014 16:12,
>                         >                 Everton Zanella Alvarenga
>                         >                 <tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
>                         >                 
>                         >                         Dear all,
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         I believe for we
>                         >                         work as a network,
>                         >                         we shouldn't have a
>                         >                         center. Thus I'd
>                         >                         like to suggest
>                         >                         henceforth to call
>                         >                         Open Knowledge
>                         >                         Central of Open
>                         >                         Knowledge Global
>                         >                         (OKCentral ->
>                         >                         OKGlobal). And we
>                         >                         work hard to work in
>                         >                         this way.
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         Thoughts? 
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         Tom
>                         >                         
>                         >                         
>                         >                         -- 
>                         >                         
>                         >                         Everton Zanella
>                         >                         Alvarenga (also Tom)
>                         >                         
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