[okfn-br] [OKFN-Local-Coord] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal
Martin Kaltenböck
m.kaltenboeck em semantic-web.at
Domingo Setembro 21 08:56:19 UTC 2014
Hi!
yes this seems to be a very good idea +1
I like the argument that a network does not necessarily need to have a
center..
Best regards from Vienna to all of you!
Martin
Am Sonntag, 21. September 2014 schrieb Nurunnaby Hasive :
> Hi All,
> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect.. :)
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Yamila García <yamilagarcia em gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yamilagarcia em gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>> +1 Internacional is ok!
>> Regards!
>> El 20/09/2014 18:59, "Denis Parfenov" <denis.parfenov em openknowledge.ie
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','denis.parfenov em openknowledge.ie');>>
>> escribió:
>>
>> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect ;-)
>>>
>>> On 20 September 2014 22:08, alberto abella <alberto.abella em okfn.es
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alberto.abella em okfn.es');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 OK international
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 17:27 +0100, Irina Bolychevsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ira
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom em okfn.org.br
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tom em okfn.org.br');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Naomi and all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> these observations are good. I like best the idea of *Open Knowledge
>>>> Internation* (*OKInternational*) instead. Already used this name in an
>>>> e-mail I just sent in another conversation. I'll use OKInternational, but
>>>> sure will listen to other ideas to come until we find a consensus. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in other planets, I
>>>> suggest change to Open Knowledge Universal, if there isn't one already or
>>>> planets where we don't need to open up knowledge created by these exotic
>>>> aliens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University of São Paulo, at
>>>> the Clock Square it is written "In the universe of culture the center
>>>> is everywhere
>>>> <http://obasculante.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/foto-reloj-usp.jpg>",
>>>> said by Miguel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>Reale
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>. I'd say the same for the
>>>> commons of knowledge. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','naomi.lillie em okfn.org');>.
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','naomi.lillie em okfn.org');>lillie
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','naomi.lillie em okfn.org');>@
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','naomi.lillie em okfn.org');>okfn
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','naomi.lillie em okfn.org');>.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','naomi.lillie em okfn.org');>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tom & all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open Knowledge Global'
>>>> implies we would then speak for all the global groups, as a sort of
>>>> collective or overall representative of all the individual Chapters, Local
>>>> Groups, Working Groups and other community groups and individuals. As you
>>>> know, this may not always be appropriate - different groups have different
>>>> aims and methods, and - for example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to
>>>> write a thought-leadership blog on successful lobbying, that could damage
>>>> the reputation of groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as anarchic
>>>> or subversive. 'Central' seems more representative of a supportive
>>>> administrative hub, which I would say is closer to my understanding of the
>>>> role the non-profit organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to
>>>> undertake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of Open Knowledge
>>>> (if there is, I want the key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't
>>>> dictate what groups do or say, the lines of communication aren't radiating
>>>> out from a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre'; 'global'
>>>> allows for a more amorphous cloud of multiple communication streams, and
>>>> less hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has sometimes given the
>>>> impression that the most usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet -
>>>> London, Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in the
>>>> case of London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that there is
>>>> no established Local Group, and many people assume 'OKCentral' is the same
>>>> as 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to address this
>>>> misconception and/or help us move away from this habit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are examples of other organisations and communities being
>>>> called 'international' - for example Amnesty International and Greenpeace
>>>> International - perhaps people involved in those groups could share
>>>> information about what the 'international' there implies and means in
>>>> practise, and we could see whether that model fits with what we all are or
>>>> hope to be?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would love to hear more from people on this list about what you
>>>> think and/or have experienced, as well as Local Group and Working Group
>>>> leaders - here looping in on CC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Naomi (speaking for myself only)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano <julio em sfsu.edu
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','julio em sfsu.edu');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <nh em nhasive.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nh em nhasive.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter Colpaert <
>>>> pieter.colpaert em okfn.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pieter.colpaert em okfn.org');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus Pollock" <
>>>> rufus.pollock em okfn.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rufus.pollock em okfn.org');>>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very good suggestion Tom - we sort of fell into the "Central"
>>>> by accident (btw it was always intended to convey coordination and support
>>>> rather than direction).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If others were happy with the "Global" moniker rather than
>>>> "Central" I think this would make perfect sense as a change.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rufus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
>>>> tom em okfn.org.br <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tom em okfn.org.br');>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe for we work as a network, we shouldn't have a
>>>> center. Thus I'd like to suggest henceforth to call Open Knowledge Central
>>>> of Open Knowledge Global (OKCentral -> OKGlobal). And we work hard to work
>>>> in this way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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