[okfn-br] [OKFN-Local-Coord] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

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Domingo Setembro 21 14:53:07 UTC 2014 

I go for +1 OK International as well.

El 2014-09-20 16:59, Denis Parfenov escribió:
> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect ;-)
> 
> On 20 September 2014 22:08, alberto abella <alberto.abella em okfn.es>
> wrote:
> 
>> +1 OK international
>> 
>> On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 17:27 +0100, Irina Bolychevsky wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Ira
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
>>> <tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
>> Naomi and all,
> 
>>> these observations are good. I like best the idea of OPEN
>>> KNOWLEDGE INTERNATION (OKINTERNATIONAL) instead. Already used this
>>> name in an e-mail I just sent in another conversation. I'll use
>>> OKInternational, but sure will listen to other ideas to come until
>>> we find a consensus. :)
> 
>>> P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in other planets, I
>>> suggest change to Open Knowledge Universal, if there isn't one
>>> already or planets where we don't need to open up knowledge
>>> created by these exotic aliens.
> 
>>> P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University of São Paulo,
>>> at the Clock Square it is written "In the universe of culture the
>>> center is everywhere [1]", said by Miguel [2]Reale [2]. I'd say
>>> the same for the commons of knowledge. :)
> 
>>> Tom
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>:
> 
>> Hi Tom & all,
> 
>> 
> 
>> Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
> 
>> 
> 
>> To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open Knowledge Global'
>> implies we would then speak for all the global groups, as a sort of
>> collective or overall representative of all the individual Chapters,
>> Local Groups, Working Groups and other community groups and
>> individuals. As you know, this may not always be appropriate -
>> different groups have different aims and methods, and - for example
>> - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to write a thought-leadership blog
>> on successful lobbying, that could damage the reputation of groups
>> in areas where lobbying is perceived as anarchic or subversive.
>> 'Central' seems more representative of a supportive administrative
>> hub, which I would say is closer to my understanding of the role the
>> non-profit organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to undertake.
> 
>> 
> 
>> On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of Open Knowledge
>> (if there is, I want the key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't
>> dictate what groups do or say, the lines of communication aren't
>> radiating out from a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around the
>> centre'; 'global' allows for a more amorphous cloud of multiple
>> communication streams, and less hierarchy. Also being called
>> 'OKCentral' has sometimes given the impression that the most usual
>> geographic location for OKCentral to meet - London, Berlin or
>> Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in the case of
>> London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that there is
>> no established Local Group, and many people assume 'OKCentral' is
>> the same as 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to
>> address this misconception and/or help us move away from this habit.
> 
>> 
> 
>> There are examples of other organisations and communities being
>> called 'international' - for example Amnesty International and
>> Greenpeace International - perhaps people involved in those groups
>> could share information about what the 'international' there implies
>> and means in practise, and we could see whether that model fits with
>> what we all are or hope to be?
> 
>> 
> 
>> I would love to hear more from people on this list about what you
>> think and/or have experienced, as well as Local Group and Working
>> Group leaders - here looping in on CC.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
> 
>> 
> 
>> Naomi (speaking for myself only)
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>> 
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>> 
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>> On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano <julio em sfsu.edu> wrote:
> 
>> +1
> 
>> 
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>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <nh em nhasive.com>
>> wrote:
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>> 
> 
>> +1
> 
>> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter Colpaert
>> <pieter.colpaert em okfn.org> wrote:
>> +1
> 
>> Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus Pollock"
>> <rufus.pollock em okfn.org>:
> 
>> 
> 
>> Very good suggestion Tom - we sort of fell into the "Central" by
>> accident (btw it was always intended to convey coordination and
>> support rather than direction).
> 
>> 
> 
>> If others were happy with the "Global" moniker rather than
>> "Central" I think this would make perfect sense as a change.
> 
>> 
> 
>> Regards,
> 
>> 
> 
>> Rufus
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>> 
> 
>> On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
>> <tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
> 
>> I believe for we work as a network, we shouldn't have a center.
>> Thus I'd like to suggest henceforth to call Open Knowledge Central
>> of Open Knowledge Global (OKCentral -> OKGlobal). And we work hard
>> to work in this way.
> 
>> Thoughts?
> 
>> Tom
> 
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