[Okfn-ca] Compte-rendu de la première réunion du groupe local, 9 juillet 2013 | OKFN Canada - Groupe local de l'Open Knowledge Foundation – Local Group : promouvoir le savoir libre

Fri Jul 12 16:32:22 UTC 2013

Hi Ted,

Can you tell me how accessible this platform is? The Discourse web site, 
as well, as the developer site, does not seem to have any info about 
accessibility standards that I can find, and I see it is optimized for 
specific browsers and devices, which is always a bit problematic in 
general. While these platforms offer great features, they often present 
real problems for people with disabilities, especially those using 
assistive technologies, and I would think an initiative like this would 
be sensitive to being open to all, regardless location, hardware, 
software, abilities, etc., etc.

Best regards,

Catherine

-- 
Catherine Roy
http://www.catherine-roy.net

On 12/07/2013 12:07 PM, Ted Strauss wrote:
> I wanted to respond to Michael's point about /email push./
> The Discourse forum sends out emails to users in the following ways:
>  - For any topic that you've previously commented on or bookmarked, 
> you'll get an email anytime someone comments on it. Unlike a listserv 
> where topics usaully live for a few days, a topic on Discourse is 
> revived anytime there's new activity on it.
>  - Discourse sends out a digest email weekly or daily (or never) 
> summarizing actvitiy of that period.
>
> So if you want to have email pushed to you, Discourse does that.
> Ted
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:19 AM, James McKinney <james at opennorth.ca 
> <mailto:james at opennorth.ca>> wrote:
>
>     I'm also keen on mailing lists, but I recognize not every is.
>
>     Also, changing the default to reply-to-list would be great. That
>     way I don't need to "reply-all" just to get a message sent back to
>     the list.
>
>     On 2013-07-12, at 11:01 AM, Michael Roberts wrote:
>
>     > Hi Ted, all
>     >
>     > Its seems like an interesting idea. From my point of view, I
>     prefer a listserv because I like things pushed to me. I've always
>     found discussion boards a place you have to go to. You have to be
>     motivated to do it, and with so many discussion boards in
>     different places, I soon forget, and simply stop going there.
>     Email is easy and I've found because of the 'push' to my inbox, it
>     encourages engagement, but I might simply be an old school
>     listserv fan. One suggestion for this list however is to change it
>     to 'reply-to-list' rather than 'reply-to-sender'.  Its makes its
>     easier to share with the wider group, and encourages even further
>     group dialogue.
>     >
>     > As for the language issue, my sense is as the list grows, you
>     are going to start to see more anglophones join the list, with
>     more english posts than there have been to date.  I'd rather see
>     the french posts, and make my own determination if I would like to
>     translate it or not, rather than be excluded from the posts.
>     >
>     > The only exception might be OKFN team when it comes to
>     announcements etc. where its important to share them in both
>     languages.
>     > My two cents.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     > Michael
>     >
>     > On 2013-07-12, at 9:59 AM, Ted Strauss <ted at trudat.co
>     <mailto:ted at trudat.co>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Hi Peder and all,
>     >> I attended the OKFN-ca meetup last week and brought up the
>     language issue
>     >> during the brainstorming round we did. I'm bilingual, from
>     anglo Canada, and the
>     >> first concern I had about a national group was the language
>     split. I brought it
>     >> up and this issue was grouped priority #1, along with other
>     out-reach issues.
>     >>
>     >> I also have a specific idea for how to improve communications
>     generally, and
>     >> specifically around the langauge issue. The idea is to move
>     okfn-ca discussion
>     >> into a more feature-rich forum software. I have recently setup
>     a forum at odx.io <http://odx.io>
>     >> using the new Discourse forum, and I'd be willing to modify it
>     to become the
>     >> okfn-ca discussion hub.
>     >>
>     >> How would this forum help the language issue?
>     >> - By moving conversations out of the listserv, it's stops you
>     receiving emails that are not in your preferred language, which
>     can become annoying.
>     >> - We could mix together English and French topics inside the
>     forum, so users could pick and choose what topics to engage with.
>     >> - Discussions can be all English, all French, or bilingual.
>     >>
>     >> The Disourse forum has many other advantages, especially for
>     long-term collaborations.
>     >>
>     >> Cheers
>     >> Ted Strauss
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Peder Jakobsen
>     <pjakobsen at gmail.com <mailto:pjakobsen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> On 2013-07-11, at 11:28 PM, Diane Mercier
>     <diane.mercier at gmail.com <mailto:diane.mercier at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>>
>     >>> We understand that it is important for the rest of Canada to
>     have a translation of French texts into English. Thanks to
>     understand that 75% of Quebecers are functionally bilingual.
>     >>
>     >> If this is true, but only 3 % of the rest of Canada is
>     functionally bilingual, isn't this approach kind of labour
>     intensive, slow, and potentially unnecessary?
>     >>
>     >> Also, since I don't read any french at all,  how will I know
>     which bits to plug into  Google translate?  Do I have to do every
>     single post that lands in my inbox.
>     >>
>     >> This  does not seem like a practical strategy for getting
>     traction and growing the group in Canada, nor for inviting
>     participation from OKFN in Europe and the US.
>     >>
>     >> Peder
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
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