[okfn-discuss] "Open Access" publications under CC-NC licences

Thu Dec 8 08:48:24 UTC 2011

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Armbruster, Chris
<Chris.Armbruster at eui.eu>wrote:

> One possibility is to look at publishers - and their business model /
> licensing. Yet, paid open access (open access publishing - OAP) very much
> relies on funders and institutions paying article processing charges (APC).
> Hence, the funders should be the ones that make CC-BY a condition of paying
> APC. Principally, they should have an intrinsic interest to do so, because
> CC-BY is the right license for science as well as the knowledge economy.
>

Many thanks Chris. It'svery useful to have such a clear statement

>
> What we would need is a list of funders/institutions with OA policies -
> and a clarification whether they require CC-BY or not. There is something
> like the SPARC Europe Seal for Journals
> http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=loadTempl&templ=080423 - as a model for a
> seal/list. Again, the seal is applied to journals instead of funders. I
> think this a strategic mistake. The journals will follow the funders, if
> the APC are linked to CC-BY.
>
> I think this list is really important. I think the OKFN can muster enough
people to do a rapid summary (probably 90% of the publishing volume,
omitting long tail).

> Just now, I have not got the time to help with this, but I can point to
> some work on OA policy implementation that I completed. Maybe this can help
> someone to get started:
>
> Absolutely. I think what we need is a simple table with the key headings
and we could do this very quickly on this list and with a Googledoc. I hope
you would have time to comment.

> Armbruster, Chris, Implementing Open Access: Policy Case Studies (October
> 14, 2010). Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=1685855
>
> Armbruster, Chris, Open Access Policy Implementation: First Results
> Compared (September 15, 2011). Learned Publishing, Vol. 24, No. 3, 2011.
> Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=1927775
>
> Armbruster, Chris, Implementing Open Access Policy: First Case Studies
> (September 15, 2011). Chinese Journal of Library and Information Science,
> Vol. 3, No. 4, pp.1-22, 2010. Available at SSRN:
> http://ssrn.com/abstract=1927772
>
> Armbruster, Chris, Cyberscience and the Knowledge-Based Economy, Open
> Access and Trade Publishing: From Contradiction to Compatibility with
> Nonexclusive Copyright Licensing. International Journal of Communications
> Law and Policy, No. 12, 2008; Policy Futures in Education, Vol. 6, No. 4,
> 2008. Available at SSRN: http://ssrn.com/abstract=938119
>
> Obviously we must compile a list of articles such as yours and also any
key blog posts so if you have a wider bibliography this would be very
useful.

Best wishes,
>
>
> Chris
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> Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] "Open Access" publications under CC-NC licences
>
> +1
>
> On 12/08/2011 12:56 AM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> There has been considerable recent discussion about CC-NC licences being
> used for "Open Access" papers by scholarly publishers. I have written a few
> blog posts (
>
>
> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/11/29/scientists-should-never-use-cc-nc-this-explains-why/
>
> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/12/04/more-on-how-commercial-publishers-use-non-commercial-licensing-funders-are-you-really-getting-your-money%E2%80%99s-worth-many-are-not/
> ,
> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/12/06/acceptance-of-cc-nc-has-sold-readers-and-authors-seriously-short/
> ) and responded to comments. I have summarised this in
>
> http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/12/07/%E2%80%9Copen-access%E2%80%9D-and-non-commercial-licences-summary/
>
> Ross Mounce has summarised this as:
> this mess has caused irreparable damage to the re-usability of the
> literature
> with which I completely agree. I think it's so serious that it should not
> be discussed on my blog but brought here.
>
> It took me by surprise that authorPays "Open Access" seems to be almost
> completely CC-NC. (The main open Access publishers such as PLoSONE and BMC
> have complete OKD-compliance by using CC-BY). CC-NC places so many
> restrictions on re-use that it is almost useless in science.
>
> I believe that the OKFN should take this issue very seriously and with
> great urgency. We know that multi-author organizations which start using
> CC-NC find it impossible to chnage later without approaching every author
> and with scholpub this is out of the question, so the longer this goes on
> the worse the problem.
>
> I believe that OKFN should put together a group which draws together
> resource material which makes the case against NC and then promotoes this
> case to publishers and funders. Any aproaches to funders or publishers
> could be done through IsItOpenData.
>
>
>
>
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