[okfn-discuss] History Journal editors on open access

John Levin john at technolalia.org
Wed Dec 12 11:18:56 UTC 2012

I'm writing a blog post on this statement; thanks to Andrew & Michael 
for their comments, which I'll be 'plagarising' for it. I hope others 
will chime in.


On 12/12/2012 10:36, Andrew Stott wrote:
> And in addition
> "subject to the author being ‘credited’ (but it is not clear in what way they would be credited)"
> Eh?
> CCBY 3.0 clearly says in the non-legalese version "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor"
> Plus of course if they are using CC-BY-NC-ND then the "attribution problem" would still apply!
> Regards
> Andrew
> On 12 Dec 2012, at 09:56, Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 09:50:29PM +0000, John Levin wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> Quote:
>>> "The licence that we will offer for publication in EITHER green OR
>>> gold will be a CCBY NC ND (creative commons non-commercial
>>> non-derivative) licence only; that is, it will not allow commercial
>>> reuse, or tweaking or reuse of parts of an article (text mining).
>> I can do text mining with only reading - now what?
>>> The government has specified that ‘gold’ access is to be given on a
>>> CCBY licence, the most permissive form of creative commons licence
>>> that there is. This however means that commercial re-use,
>>> plagiarism, and republication of an author’s work will be possible,
>>> subject to the author being ‘credited’ (but it is not clear in what
>> Isn't plagiarism taking someone elses work and claiming it's yours? How is
>> this "possible" differently than with any other text. CC BY does not allow
>> claiming it's yours.
>>> way they would be credited). We believe that this is a serious
>>> infringement of intellectual property rights and we do not want our
>>> authors to have to sign away their rights in order to publish with
>>> us."
>> Michael
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