[okfn-discuss] Fwd: New article for "libre" on Wikipedia is now live!

Sun May 27 08:19:17 UTC 2012

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Danny Piccirillo <
danny.piccirillo at member.fsf.org> wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Chris Sakkas" <sanglorian at gmail.com>
> Date: May 26, 2012 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [FC-discuss] Last chance to look over Libre Wikipedia entry
> before I publish
> To: "Discussion of Free Culture in general and this organization in
> particular" <discuss at freeculture.org>
>
> Phew, the Libre <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre> page is now live!
> Thanks for all your help, folks.
>

Thanks for this.
I have been heavily involved in Open Access and think the account on this
page is accurate. It is important to continue to stress that "libre" in the
Open Access world is not a conventional use of the term and in my opinion
causes confusion and damage, not least because publishers charge (often
5000 USD)  for "fully open access" which is merely gratis.

I have copied this to the OKF open-access list. We try to encourage the use
of either "BOAI-compliant" or "OKD-compliant" as the term "open Access" is
operationally meaningless.

> Matt: Thanks for your grammatical fixes and your suggestion to sort out
> the footnotes. I moved some non-citation material out of the footnotes and
> into the body.
>
> Pharos: Thanks for the tip! I knew of the Gratis versus Libre page, but I
> used the Alternative Terms for Free Software page to add some extra content
> at the last minute.
>
> Hopefully it'll stick around, grow and be a useful contribution to
> Wikipedia :)
>
>
> Chris
>
> *Chris Sakkas
> **Admin of the FOSsil Bank wiki <http://fossilbank.wikidot.com/> and the Living
> Libre blog <http://www.livinglibre.com> and Twitter feed<https://twitter.com/#%21/living_libre>
> .*
>
>
>
> On 24 May 2012 01:04, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Richard!
>>
>> Yes, indeed, you may want to check out the discussion pages on those
>> articles and see if this topic has come up before about creating a new page
>> outright for "Libre".
>>
>> You could further help your case by seeing if there is any content that
>> would not fit appropriately on these two articles (or any other for that
>> matter) but would make sense to be posted on a "Libre" article.
>>
>> If you find this to be the case, I'd even recommend adding an explanation
>> and links to the "Discussion" page.
>>
>> // Matt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> You also might want to keep these articles in mind:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_terms_for_free_software
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Great work so far, I added some grammatical and clarification changes
>>> to the
>>> > first paragraph, would love to continue the conversation on-wiki. Two
>>> > meta-level thoughts:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Be bold! Posting content on Wikipedia and getting feedback from
>>> other
>>> > wikipedians will help the article grow and provide opportunities to
>>> improve.
>>> > Although it's hard to say what other folks might think or whether this
>>> issue
>>> > has come up previously, I have a good feeling that the term "Libre" is
>>> > notable enough to form an article as it both encapsulates a recognized
>>> gap
>>> > in the English lexicon and has particular significance to particularly
>>> > notable social movements (e.g. free/libre software/culture).
>>> >
>>> > 2. While the footnotes are great, it would be valuable to reserve
>>> <ref>'s
>>> > for citations to reliable material. If we can find some more secondary
>>> > resources, I think it will help this article stand up on its own legs
>>> and
>>> > encourage the addition of further content and references down the line.
>>> >
>>> > Good work, keep up the editing!
>>> >
>>> > // Matt
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Chris Sakkas <sanglorian at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi folks,
>>> >>
>>> >> A couple of months ago I was drafting a Wikipedia page for 'libre',
>>> and I
>>> >> finally returned to incorporate the remaining feedback I'd received.
>>> I'll
>>> >> publish it in the next couple of days, but I thought I should give
>>> you a
>>> >> chance to look over it before I do so:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanglorian/sandbox
>>> >>
>>> >> Feel free to make any edits you like to the article itself, or leave a
>>> >> comment on the talk page and I'll incorporate it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris
>>> >>
>>> >> Chris Sakkas
>>> >> Admin of the FOSsil Bank wiki and the Living Libre blog and Twitter
>>> feed.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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