[okfn-discuss] [project proposal] OpenTest

Thu Nov 22 17:52:02 UTC 2012

Sebastian,

Jonathan makes a very good point. I believe NC and ND licenses have their use, as do hundreds of thousands of community members, but I also believe that there are more liberal options that are more in the spirit of "open" as defined by the Open Definition. 

As I mentioned to you in an earlier message, CC-BY for your web site and CC0 for the data would be appropriate CC licenses for this project. You may also consider CC-BY-SA, which, while a tad more restrictive than the other two, still conforms to the spirit of openness.

Puneet.

On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:

> Unfortunately NC licenses are beyond the scope of the Open Knowledge
> Foundation, which is focused on material which is open as in the Open
> Definition [1]. So we wouldn't be able to offer any support for the project
> if it was licensed under CC-BY-SA-NC!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> [1] http://opendefinition.org/
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Sebastian Beca <sebastian.beca at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rufus,
>> 
>> Thanks for taking the time to look through it! =)
>> 
>> Answering your questions:
>> 
>> 1. The project considers both a Question/Test Editor (composer) as well as
>> the database of questions.
>> 
>> 2. Up to this point I'm considering CC-BY-SA-NC for the site and editing
>> tools that will become available on it. I have kept the NC because one of
>> the main motivations of the Chilean Education Revolution of the past years
>> is to move away from profiting in education, i.e. 'Education is not for
>> sale' [1]. It might be a bit harsh and could discourage some people from
>> using the contents, but I still think it's a better option for this
>> project. Also I've noticed the OER Commons project also works with the NC
>> license.
>> 
>> Regarding the database of questions, I'm considering using the
>> OpenDatabase license [2] as I understand it is more specific for databases,
>> and it is now being used in OSM and is an OKFN project. I'm not sure what
>> the NC equivalent is in that license yet...
>> 
>> The licensing is still something I'm reviewing so I'm open to hear
>> opinions and ideas regarding this.
>> 
>> Sebastian
>> 
>> [1]:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%932012_Chilean_student_protests
>> [2]: http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sebastien,
>>> 
>>> Thank-you very much for sending through the proposal. My understanding
>>> is that you aren't so much building a quiz builder as an open
>>> *database* of questions (perhaps in some structured format?). Is that
>>> correct?
>>> 
>>> Also, in terms of licensing I assume you would be *openly* licensing
>>> the material i.e. using an Open Definition conformant license. One
>>> reason for asking is the current site uses a non-commercial license
>>> which isn't, in fact, Open Definition conformant (note that not all CC
>>> licenses are open and CC licenses do not in fact form a commons - see
>>> [1] for more).
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rufus
>>> 
>>> [1]:
>>> http://blog.okfn.org/2012/10/04/making-a-real-commons-creative-commons-should-drop-the-non-commercial-and-no-derivatives-licenses/
>>> 
>>> On 20 November 2012 04:26, Sebastian Beca <sebastian.beca at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to propose OpenTest as an OKFN project. The idea is to build a
>>>> collaborative assessment database where educators and learners can
>>> upload
>>>> and share their questions and tests. All contents will be under CC
>>> license,
>>>> OpenDatabase or equivalent.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a lot of OpenEducation content on the web, not so much
>>> assessment.
>>>> I believe this is a need that could be helpful for many schools, and
>>>> educational institutions around the world.
>>>> 
>>>> More info on the project here: www.opentest.cc
>>>> 
>>>> I'd be more than happy to discuss the idea with you! =)
>>>> 
>>>> regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sebastian
>>>> 
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