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4. Re: OKFN & Environment Data (James Smith)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:37:07 -0300
From: Rafael Pezzi <rafael.pezzi at ufrgs.br>
Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:12:04 +0200
From: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data
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Cc: Lisa Evans <lisa.evans at okfn.org>, David Jones
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Thanks for starting this conversation James! :-)
A while back we started a Working Group on Climate Data which is
currently 'incubating' (cc'ing Lisa Evans and David Jones who were
involved in this group).
If there was enough interest and someone who was willing to champion
the group, then we could activate it again!
http://wiki.okfn.org/Working_Groups/climatescience
http://okfn.org/wg/
For background information, here are a few links related to our
previous work in this area:
http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/the-ipcc-data-distribution-centre-enviro
nmental-data-licensing/
http://blog.okfn.org/2009/12/05/climate-change-climate-sceptics-and-open
-data/
http://blog.okfn.org/2010/01/28/clear-climate-code-and-data/
http://blog.okfn.org/2010/02/24/a-tour-of-climate-data-at-ckan/
http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data
http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data/Policy
http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/2009-December/000133.html
http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata
I think that if we were to have a climate WG it would be good to have
a few specific aims and objectives, e.g.:
* Organising events/meetups - e.g. via
http://www.meetup.com/OpenKnowledgeFoundation/
* Continuing to maintain the registry of climate data on CKAN -
http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata
* Policy/advocacy work to encourage open licensing of climate data
to key organisations and stakeholders. (Previous correspondence I had
with the IPCC indicated that they were very keen to see more
institutions change their licensing policies to be more open, but
didn't have the bandwidth to negotiate this with each data
contributor.)
J.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Rafael Pezzi <rafael.pezzi at ufrgs.br>
wrote:
> Hi James and everyone else,
>
> Unfortunately I have not been to OKFestival, nor seen James Cameron
and
> Rosling's speeches. Nevertheless, I am deeply interested in open
> Environmental Data together with some other folks from Brazil.
>
> We are getting organized to build an open source ecology for
environmental
> and weather data collection, visualization, interpretation. We are
starting
> to build some prototype weather station and air/water monitoring tools
based
> on Arduino and alikes, to be released under permissive licenses. All
> methodology based on open source software and whenever possible, open
> source/libre hardware. We aim to use the data for research and
education
> (urban micro-climate simulation/interpretation, environmental
education,
> climate change elucidation/mitigation). Our plans is to have one
station of
> these in each school.
>
> Once we have our first sensor network (prototype, at the university)
> working, we'll need protocols for data transmission, authentication,
data
> storage, visualization and so on. I am not an expert in none of these
- help
> and suggestions are greatly appreciated. The project is open for
> contributions from anyone and we are open for partnerships. We are in
lack
> of good practices for open data publishing. We would like to get it
somewhat
> right from the beginning.
>
> Our project page is mainly in Portuguese, anyway, here are the links
to some
> information that I have been collecting on these issues - some
descriptions
> have been pasted in English, though. Modules: , Platforms ,
References.
>
> This is the first big project of a center being created with the
purpose of
> using, studying, developing, and sharing open source technology at our
> university, in southern Brazil.
>
> Please let me know if this conversation has been moved to another
list.
>
> All the best,
> Rafael
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk>
> Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM
> Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data
> To: okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> If you saw James Cameron or Hans Rosling's speeches at OKFestival,
you'll
> have heard them both call for Open Data to tackle environmental
problems,
> particularly around opening up emissions data and so on.
>
> There is a huge list of things that could be done, from opening up
> environmental methodologies (AMEE recently opened their datasets, for
> example), to improving scientific climate data, to national emissions
> reporting, to visualisation, and there are some things going on in all
these
> areas already.
>
> I know a few people have been talking about maybe doing some of this
within
> OKFN, but I thought I'd try to pull the conversation together so we
can all
> work together instead of stepping on each others' toes!
>
> So, who's interested in this sort of thing, and what would you be
interested
> in doing? Are you already doing it? Are there parts that are more or
less
> appropriate for OKFN's mission? What fits, and what should be handled
> elsewhere?
>
> We can discuss here initially, but could then move to a smaller list;
there
> are some fairly dormant-seeming OKFN WGs and lists that might be
relevant
> homes for the conversation, and we also have the cleanweb-uk list
which is
> full of people interested in this sort of thing (see
> http://cleanweb.org.uk).
>
> cheers,
> James
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:15:06 +0200
From: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data
To: okfn-discuss <okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
Cc: David Jones <drj at climatecode.org>, Lisa Evans
<lisa.evans at guardian.co.uk>
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(And again with David's correct address!)
Thanks for starting this conversation James! :-)
A while back we started a Working Group on Climate Data which is
currently 'incubating' (cc'ing Lisa Evans and David Jones who were
involved in this group).
If there was enough interest and someone who was willing to champion
the group, then we could activate it again!
http://wiki.okfn.org/Working_Groups/climatescience
http://okfn.org/wg/
For background information, here are a few links related to our
previous work in this area:
http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/the-ipcc-data-distribution-centre-enviro
nmental-data-licensing/
http://blog.okfn.org/2009/12/05/climate-change-climate-sceptics-and-open
-data/
http://blog.okfn.org/2010/01/28/clear-climate-code-and-data/
http://blog.okfn.org/2010/02/24/a-tour-of-climate-data-at-ckan/
http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data
http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Environmental_Data/Policy
http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/open-science/2009-December/000133.html
http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata
I think that if we were to have a climate WG it would be good to have
a few specific aims and objectives, e.g.:
* Organising events/meetups - e.g. via
http://www.meetup.com/OpenKnowledgeFoundation/
* Continuing to maintain the registry of climate data on CKAN -
http://thedatahub.org/group/climatedata
* Policy/advocacy work to encourage open licensing of climate data
to key organisations and stakeholders. (Previous correspondence I had
with the IPCC indicated that they were very keen to see more
institutions change their licensing policies to be more open, but
didn't have the bandwidth to negotiate this with each data
contributor.)
J.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Rafael Pezzi <rafael.pezzi at ufrgs.br>
wrote:
> Hi James and everyone else,
>
> Unfortunately I have not been to OKFestival, nor seen James Cameron
and
> Rosling's speeches. Nevertheless, I am deeply interested in open
> Environmental Data together with some other folks from Brazil.
>
> We are getting organized to build an open source ecology for
environmental
> and weather data collection, visualization, interpretation. We are
starting
> to build some prototype weather station and air/water monitoring tools
based
> on Arduino and alikes, to be released under permissive licenses. All
> methodology based on open source software and whenever possible, open
> source/libre hardware. We aim to use the data for research and
education
> (urban micro-climate simulation/interpretation, environmental
education,
> climate change elucidation/mitigation). Our plans is to have one
station of
> these in each school.
>
> Once we have our first sensor network (prototype, at the university)
> working, we'll need protocols for data transmission, authentication,
data
> storage, visualization and so on. I am not an expert in none of these
- help
> and suggestions are greatly appreciated. The project is open for
> contributions from anyone and we are open for partnerships. We are in
lack
> of good practices for open data publishing. We would like to get it
somewhat
> right from the beginning.
>
> Our project page is mainly in Portuguese, anyway, here are the links
to some
> information that I have been collecting on these issues - some
descriptions
> have been pasted in English, though. Modules: , Platforms ,
References.
>
> This is the first big project of a center being created with the
purpose of
> using, studying, developing, and sharing open source technology at our
> university, in southern Brazil.
>
> Please let me know if this conversation has been moved to another
list.
>
> All the best,
> Rafael
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk>
> Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM
> Subject: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data
> To: okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> If you saw James Cameron or Hans Rosling's speeches at OKFestival,
you'll
> have heard them both call for Open Data to tackle environmental
problems,
> particularly around opening up emissions data and so on.
>
> There is a huge list of things that could be done, from opening up
> environmental methodologies (AMEE recently opened their datasets, for
> example), to improving scientific climate data, to national emissions
> reporting, to visualisation, and there are some things going on in all
these
> areas already.
>
> I know a few people have been talking about maybe doing some of this
within
> OKFN, but I thought I'd try to pull the conversation together so we
can all
> work together instead of stepping on each others' toes!
>
> So, who's interested in this sort of thing, and what would you be
interested
> in doing? Are you already doing it? Are there parts that are more or
less
> appropriate for OKFN's mission? What fits, and what should be handled
> elsewhere?
>
> We can discuss here initially, but could then move to a smaller list;
there
> are some fairly dormant-seeming OKFN WGs and lists that might be
relevant
> homes for the conversation, and we also have the cleanweb-uk list
which is
> full of people interested in this sort of thing (see
> http://cleanweb.org.uk).
>
> cheers,
> James
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> okfn-discuss mailing list
> okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org
> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
--
Jonathan Gray
Head of Community
The Open Knowledge Foundation
http://www.okfn.org
http://twitter.com/jwyg
--
Jonathan Gray
Head of Community
The Open Knowledge Foundation
http://www.okfn.org
http://twitter.com/jwyg
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:34:50 +0100
From: James Smith <james at floppy.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] OKFN & Environment Data
To: Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list
<okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
Cc: David Jones <drj at climatecode.org>, Lisa Evans
<lisa.evans at guardian.co.uk>
Message-ID: <8016A75A90E44182893BC8B7F6A6D504 at floppy.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi all,
I think, given that the WG already went a bit quiet, it's best to focus
on a small area that's specific to OKFN's interest.
There are other organisations doing some bits already. For instance, I'm
organiser of Cleanweb UK (http://cleanweb.org.uk), which organises
meetups and events in this sort of area, and acts as a
cross-organisational community. That means that a WG wouldn't have to
take that on, which keeps things simpler. Similarly, the ODI may be able
to do some of the policy/advocacy work.
I guess I see OKFN's strengths as being in working with the actual data.
There's lots that could be done here which could create solid results.
As you mention, there is maintenance on the existing CKAN content, but
we also have a lot of data that was recently opened by AMEE that could
be adopted. Then there is the creation of an open standard for emissions
reporting, which would help answer Rosling's 'Open Emissions Data Now'
call. The Open Economics group also have some work ongoing in the area
of open energy data.
Of course, (and this may be heresy on this list, but who knows) this
doesn't *have* to happen within the OKFN. A separate (though friendly)
organisation might be simpler.
cheers,
James
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