[okfn-discuss] [FC-d"iscuss] A Free, Libre and Open Glossary

Aaron Wolf wolftune at gmail.com
Wed Jul 10 13:53:22 UTC 2013


I like the idea of standardizing with the Spanish, however, can we get the
OKFN to become the LKFN and the FSF to become the LSF or SLF? As much as
libre/gratis are clearly the winning words for clarity, we are dealing with
a reality in which people often see "free" and "open" in these contexts, so
we have to simply deal with it. I think FLO, free/libre/open, is the best
solution as it makes people recognize that there is confusion. I think the
goal right now should be to get the world to wonder whenever they see
"free" or "open" and ask themselves, "well, is it libre?" or "is it FLO?"
And this will only happen if we do acknowledge all of these terms as being
related to the same central libre concept.

--
Aaron Wolf
wolftune.com


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Javier Creus
<javicreus at ideasforchange.com>wrote:

> We could maybe adopt the terms in spanish as a standard
>
> - libre = open = Free to modify
>
> - gratis = free of charge
>
> Javi
>
>
>
> El 10/07/2013, a las 14:55, Gene Shackman <eval_gene at yahoo.com> escribió:
>
> "Free Software is NOT simply free to use. "Free Software" as defined by
> the ... Free Software Foundation"gets a lit
>
> Well, this is where it gets sort of complex. To folks in the open
> knowledge movement, "free" has a specific meaning, as Aaron indicated. It
> means free to use, modify, share.  To folks in the general public, "free"
> likely means free of charge, and free to use. It does not necessarily
> include free to modify. Some examples are these packages, which are "free"
> to use, but not "free" to modify:
>
> Epi Info http://wwwn.cdc.gov/epiinfo/
> MicOsiris http://www.microsiris.com/ (a statistical program)
> TextSTAT http://neon.niederlandistik.fu-berlin.de/en/textstat/ (a word
> analysis program)
> Tableau public  http://www.tableausoftware.com/public/ (data
> visualization. As far as I can tell, this is free of charge but not open)
>
> Thus, some general statement at the beginning of a glossary would be
> helpful, to explain what "free" means. So here is a modified opening
> statement.
>
>
> (title) What is free or open knowledge?
>
> There are a whole lot of things on the web, like software, papers,
> reports, data, artworks, etc, that are "free" to use, or "open" knowledge.
> But "free" and "open" have specific meaning, often different from what the
> general public understands. For example, in many definitions of "free",
> software has to be free to use, AND free to modify (e.g., "open"). The
> source code has to be available, and open to modification by anyone.
> Without those conditions, the software is not "free", but is just "free of
> charge".  This glossary explains the specific meaning of "free" and "open"
> and related terms, and explains what you need to know to understand
> appropriate use of "open" or "free" knowledge.
>
>
> Gene
>
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