[okfn-discuss] Keeping DRM out of HTML5

Daniel Dietrich daniel.dietrich at okfn.org
Wed May 15 21:30:20 UTC 2013


Dear Herrmann,

I think the OKFN should publicly reject DRM in general and as a whole. HTML5 is just one aspect of this battle.

But thats just my humble opinion, interested to hear what other think.

All best
Daniel


On 15 May 2013, at 23:08, Augusto Herrmann <augusto.herrmann at gmail.com> wrote:

> Since the WWW 2013 conference is happening this week, and this issue is in discussion there, I though this an opportune moment to revisit the topic.
> 
> Do you guys think the OKFn should publicly reject DRM as a whole, or add to the campaign against it in HTML5, as the FSF and EFF have been doing? Even a blog post discussing why this is bad for open knowledge could be useful at this moment.
> 
> Regards,
> Augusto Herrmann
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Aaron Wolf <wolftune at gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, sorry about my typo. We're clear. Public endorsements of negative things cause more harm than any potential upside of luring your enemies into your camp or whatever.
> 
> All political positions matter in terms of how they inspire others, not just for the technical details.
> 
> --
> Aaron Wolf
> wolftune.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Karsten Gerloff <gerloff at fsfeurope.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 01:06:04PM -0400, Aaron Wolf wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Karsten Gerloff <gerloff at fsfeurope.org>wrote:
> >
> > > Looking at the, ahem, "success" of
> > > technologies such as Flash and Silverlight, they're welcome to
> > > try.
> > >
> >
> > I must say, I know this is just a turn of phrase, but they are NOT welcome
> > to try more of this. We need to keep working to have a culture that shames
> > these attempts even when they are failed attempts.
> 
> I fully agree.
> >
> > And that said, the idea of TBL endorsing DRM is destructive. Whether it
> > possibly has any utility in bringing the systems to light where they can be
> > rejected, if the goal of rejection isn't PUBLIC then it's bad for the
> > culture. We can have respectable people telling the culture to respect DRM.
> 
> s/can/can't, right?
> 
> > This is a cultural battle more than a technological one.
> 
> Quite so. If Tim Berners-Lee has a strategy here, I hope it's a
> very good one. But I doubt it.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Karsten
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