[okfn-discuss] effort to improve "open science" article on Wikipedia... also see citizendium

Fri Sep 13 19:49:56 UTC 2013

I don't know enough to judge really, but the Wikipedia article about
Citizendium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizendium seems thorough and
clear. The rationalwiki article is quite harsh:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Citizendium

I don't see any actual justification for promoting Citizendium vs working
for the continued improvement of Wikipedia which is already a responsible,
well-governed, imperfect, successful resource with which Citizendium has no
hope to compete. There is a lot to be said for consolidation / coordination
/ and consensus. Regardless of your critiques of Wikipedia, it will be best
to consent to improving it rather than waste time with problematic forks.
Fragmentation isn't a good thing, even though forking is a necessary
freedom.

Respectfully,
Aaron

--
Aaron Wolf
wolftune.com

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Gene Shackman <eval_gene at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I guess wikipedia is the big thing because this is what the public goes
> to. But there are other on line encycs, better than wikipedia. For example,
> see citizendium
> http://en.citizendium.org/
> where articles are written by named people and are refereed. They have a
> proto article on open data
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Open_data
> that needs input, and the beginnings of an open science article
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Open_science
> that needs lots of input.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
>
> Gene Shackman, Ph.D.
> The Global Social Change Research Project
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>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Lane Rasberry <lane at bluerasberry.com>
> *To:* Open Access discussions <openaccess at lists.wikimedia.org>; Gabriel
> Thullen <gabriel at thullen.com>; Brian Basden <bbasden1 at gmail.com>; Celya
> HYPhD <celyagd at hackyourphd.org>; OKFN America <info at okfn.us>; Open
> Knowledge Foundation discussion list <okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 12:32 PM
> *Subject:* [okfn-discuss] effort to improve "open science" article on
> Wikipedia...
>
> Hello all,
>
> This email talks about an upcoming effort to develop the Wikipedia article
> on "open science" at the the Open Knowledge Foundation conference 16-18
> September in Geneva and online. The request is that anyone who is able
> should consider submitting something to that Wikipedia article - or to this
> list for those unfamiliar with Wikipedia - so that people can learn more
> about open science. The rest of this email talks about that - there is no
> need to read further if you are not interested in participating.
>
> *Why this matters*
> One way to describe open science is to say that it is the idea that all
> science intended to be made available should be made available. Right now
> there are barriers to collaboration in science, including inability of
> researchers to read papers (lack of open access) and inability of
> researchers to share data (lack of open data).
>
> Since the Wikipedia article on "open science" is the first returned result
> for a search engine query on the topic, securing the usefulness of this
> Wikipedia article is probably a prerequisite to anticipating that mass
> media will ever talk about open science and thus encourage a social
> movement.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_science>
>
> *How anyone can help*
> The easiest way that anyone can develop any Wikipedia article is to make
> sure that all major sources describing a topic are at least cited and
> mentioned in the references section of that Wikipedia article. If sources
> are not identified, then no one can develop the article. Please look at the
> sources already cited and if anyone knows a fundamental source of "open
> science" not mentioned in this article then please post it on Wikipedia or
> if that is not possible, mention it in this mailing list.
>
> Otherwise, anyone can edit Wikipedia at any time. Feel free to jump in by
> going to any Wikipedia article and clicking "edit" at the top of the page.
> If you do something wrong then I assure you that your contribution will be
> salvaged and integrated by others.
>
> Although the conference and drive to improve this article is 16-18
> September, actually you can feel free to contribute to Wikipedia at any
> time.
>
> *Who can do this*
> Stakeholders in the public perception of the concept of "open science"
> should consider that at least this project will influence them, just
> because this article will be for the foreseeable future the central source
> of information on this topic. Anyone who likes can give input.
>
> This effort is being organized by Ceyla of HackYourPhD.org. She just went
> on an international open science tour and documented an oral history of
> open science. She will be at OKCon in Geneva and can assist people at that
> conference. I [[user:bluerasberry]] on Wikipedia or lane at bluerasberry.comcan assist people on Wikipedia or otherwise online.
> <http://hackyourphd.org/en/> Ceyla - at the conference
> *<https://etherpad.mozilla.org/OKCon-OpenScienceHackDay> <------- Most
> details planned here *
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bluerasberry> Lane - online only
>
> The P2P Foundation is an organizational overseer in this effort.
> <http://p2pfoundation.net/>
>
> I would also like to advertise that there is a mailing list for the
> Wikipedia community about internal policy on open access - open access
> advocates may want to subscribe to this here.
> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess>
>
> Also I would like to advertise that I recognize the Open Knowledge
> Foundation as a major international player in promoting community
> discussion about open science and related topics.
>
> Finally I would like to point to Gabriel Thullen and Brian as active
> Wikipedians who live in Geneva. I have no idea whether they might be able
> to say hello to any open science fans attending this conference but they do
> both know Wikipedia and they do what they can to promote access to
> information in Switzerland and beyond. Gabriel is especially interested in
> getting youth to edit Wikipedia and Brian contributes to health content on
> Wikipedia.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GastelEtzwane>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Biosthmors> <--- pressed for time but
> friendly online
>
> Thanks for your attention! There is a concerted effort to improve articles
> on open science and open access before the summer of 2014, when at
> Wikimania, the international Wikipedia conference, we are making a media
> push for recognition that Wikipedians and others need access to information
> to make the articles that people are demanding!
>
> yours,
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *CelyaHYPhd* <celyagd at hackyourphd.org>
> Date: Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:59 PM
> Subject: Some news..
> To: Lane Rasberry <lane at bluerasberry.com>
>
>
> Hi Lane
>
> How are you?
>
> The last steps of my travel were really busy. Since one week now, I've had
> more time to put the last interviews online. I also wrote some articles
> about Boston and Montréal<http://hackyourphd.org/en/2013/09/9th-to-20th-august-open-science-montreal-boston-world-of-bubbles/>and I hope to finish my article about NY tomorrow!
>
> Here is your open science interview<https://soundcloud.com/hackyourphd/hyphdus-lane-rasberry-wikipedia-health>
>
> I read also your comments about Kay's article about the Mozilla Science
> Lab.
>
> Thats why I wanted t to let you know that we will certainly organize an
> OpenScience wikisprint with the P2Pfoundation and Wikipedia during the OKcon
> Hackday <http://okcon.org/> on sept 19th
>
> Pierre Carl Langlais the french wikipedian PdD student is helping to
> settle everything.
> Here is the draf <https://etherpad.mozilla.org/OKCon-OpenScienceHackDay>t
> for different sessions we'd like to organize..
> Your advice are welcome
>
>
> Best
>
> Célya
>
>
>
> --
>  Célya Gruson-Daniel
> HackYourPhD co-founder
> #OpenScience community "Lets invent a research more open and transparent!"
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>
> --
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>
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