[okfn-discuss] Googles role in the open movement

Thu Aug 7 13:59:00 UTC 2014

"morozov" and "less rant" in the same sentence is pretty funny. He's a very
skilled and subtle provocateur, but let's be clear: his goal is to enflame
and anger, not to clarify and enlighten.

Luis
On Aug 7, 2014 4:56 AM, "Daniel Dietrich" <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:

> Hey
>
> I think this is great!
>
> But wouldn’t it be even more interesting to have Morozov and someone who
> has a less critical view on Google s role in the open data movement discuss
> on a panel? More discussion, less rant, perhaps a setup like:
>
> Morozov, Doctorow, _who else here_ and some one from Google ;)
>
> Daniel
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> On 07.08.2014, at 13:47, Rayna <rayna.st at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If we go for Morozov (+42), let's also go for Doctorow ;)
> >
> >
> > 2014-08-07 13:46 GMT+02:00 Pierre Chrzanowski <
> pierre.chrzanowski at gmail.com>:
> > +1 for Morozov ;)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM, stef <s at ctrlc.hu> wrote:
> > ohi,
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 02:18:53PM +0200, Niels Erik Kaaber Rasmussen
> wrote:
> > > Thanks for a great #Okfest14 with interesting and inspiring people,
> sessions and talks in Berlin.
> > >
> > > One issue that was not on the official programme, but I came to
> discuss multiple times in private conversations was Googles role in the
> event and more generally in the open movement. Should Google lead the way
> in the quests for a "global digital infrastructure for democracy"? Are
> google open enough? How about privacy issues? Censorship? Tax issues? Etc.
> >
> > although i had no means to attend, some attendees seem to consider me
> their
> > counselor, everyone was concerned about this issue, some transparency ngo
> > representative said it was very insulting from the google keynote to
> claim
> > them being one of us. if he would be, he might have had the same
> problems as
> > me, no funds to attend...
> >
> > my recommendation for the next okfest, more (or at least some) ethics
> less
> > corrupt keynoters. my dream would be morozov as a mandatory keynoter -
> > mandatory for every participant that is.
> >
> > (great work sally+javier for the little responsibility at the fringe of
> the
> > event)
> >
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