[okfn-discuss] [od-discuss] Open Definition 2.0?

Tue Oct 7 15:40:02 UTC 2014

Sounds good, although I'd propose it be generalized to apply to similar
cases of decision-making aside from the OD

Cheers

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Aaron Wolf
wolftune.com

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Herb Lainchbury <herb at dynamic-solutions.com>
wrote:

> Okay, thank you.  That makes sense to me.
>
> I propose we put together a simple page for this process, the "Open
> Definition Update Process", like we have for the licence approval process (
> http://opendefinition.org/licenses/process/ ) so we can be explicit about
> how updates happen and are communicated.
>
> Since it looks like we may have a 2.0.1 to consider soon it may be useful
> in the very near future. :)
>
> H
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>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Aaron Wolf <wolftune at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Herb, thank you. I would call it step 4. Announce final-draft
>> release-candidate to the main OK list (and assume there will likely be some
>> questions / feedback to consider), and step 5 is then the final release.
>>
>> That definitely captures my concerns in a nice formal way, and if that
>> model becomes the model for similar projects, I think we will be much
>> better going forward.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Aaron
>>
>> --
>> Aaron Wolf
>> wolftune.com
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Herb Lainchbury <
>> herb at dynamic-solutions.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> I am trying to understand your suggestion.
>>>
>>> Our process was roughly:
>>> 1. discuss publicly for a year+
>>> 2. a call for final discussion and additions
>>> https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/od-discuss/2014-July/000905.html
>>> 3. a call for a vote
>>> https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/od-discuss/2014-August/000949.html
>>> 4. a formal announcement
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that there should be a step 3.1 where we make a
>>> final-release-candidate announcement?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Herb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Aaron Wolf <wolftune at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think folks had assumed that interested parties would be on the
>>>>> od-discuss list or read the announcements on the open definition blog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think it just seems odd to me this conflation of "folks interested in
>>>> participating in the drafting process" with "folks interested in seeing and
>>>> commenting on a proposed final draft". This isn't about making anyone feel
>>>> bad. We can go ahead and admit that folks did not do their best and still
>>>> acknowledge all the great work. The point is to learn lessons and improve
>>>> going forward.
>>>>
>>>> If I seem frustrated, it's because lessons *should* have been learned
>>>> from the roll-out of the tagline. Given that history, folks who felt ok
>>>> posting the final announcement to the list without posting a
>>>> final-draft-candidate first did *not do their best*. I wouldn't try to
>>>> emphasize that if it weren't asserted otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> We need a general cultural standard that we always consider
>>>> final-release-candidate announcements and not skip that in favor of jumping
>>>> to final-release. And things that emphasize how great the process was in
>>>> response to this concern seem to be efforts to downplay this. I didn't want
>>>> a long thread, I just want others to say, "yeah, that's what we should have
>>>> done and should do in the future".
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Aaron Wolf
>>>> wolftune.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Herb Lainchbury, Dynamic Solutions
>>> 250.704.6154
>>> http://www.dynamic-solutions.com
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
> --
>
> Herb Lainchbury, Dynamic Solutions
> 250.704.6154
> http://www.dynamic-solutions.com
>
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