[okfn-discuss] Open Knowledge Festival 2015 - Location Thoughts

Maricarmen Sequera maricarmen at tedic.org
Mon Oct 13 23:49:15 UTC 2014


+ 1 for Tom! =)

2014-10-13 20:39 GMT-03:00 Anna Daniel <a.daniel at griffith.edu.au>:

> fyi
> visa requirements per country:
> http://www.projectvisa.com/fullcountrylist.asp
> vaccination requirements per country:
> http://www.travelvax.com.au/holiday-traveller/vaccination-requirements
> :-)
>
>
> Kind regards
> Anna Daniel  PhD
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> On 14 October 2014 03:53, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom at okfn.org.br>
> wrote:
>
>> I want join this discussion later making more general comments, but I
>> want to say a big +1 to moving OKFestival to other regions of the globe, if
>> we want to becoe a really OKI, not an OK"I". I am aware of the big
>> challenges this implies, but we should not fear challenges and I know we
>> can tend to stay in the confort of our homes trying to change the world.
>> That is pretty common with the engaged high middle class here in Brazil or
>> those chair intellectuals (those intellectuals who create theories about
>> the world from their desks) trying to solve social problems.
>>
>> Regardins visa policy in Brazil, it seems to be quite open as compared to
>> several countries (some European friends are jeaulous when I tell I don't
>> need a visa to go to Russia ;D):
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Brazil
>>
>> Europe is not the center of the world since a long time.
>>
>> P. S. [Off-topic] Once I saying as a joke (with some trutth behind it)
>> about the bad location of Wikimedia Foundation office in San Francisco
>> (awful timezone) whilst enjoying a shade in the northeast of Brazil. I
>> still wonder, why not an office in the northeast of Brazil? :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> 2014-10-08 16:01 GMT-03:00 Rayna <rayna.st at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Just a quick thought because we are all speaking of immigration
>>> policies. It is unfortunately quite a mistake to consider that Europe
>>> because of Schengen is the worst place on Earth. Africa is not much better:
>>> visas are required for any country. Even though I am a European citizen, I
>>> don't get that easily through. Visas are applied to other African nationals
>>> too, for granting an entry to an African country. Personally, I am quite
>>> uneasy spending money on visas (80 euros minimum for a visa to Ivory Coast
>>> for instance); I am especially uneasy leaving my fingerprints and being
>>> physically searched upon arrival and departure in African airports.
>>>
>>> I have no idea how it is handled in LatAm or Asia, but I fear there is
>>> no safe haven :(
>>>
>>> As much as I would argue in favour of a non-Western location, I think
>>> that very few of the actual community will be able to make it without
>>> financial aid. And it might be far more expensive to take in charge
>>> 6-10-hour flights for people, for example.
>>>
>>> I would thus argue in favour of Berlin for the 2015 edition, and support
>>> the suggestion someone had in a previous email to start thinking of a new
>>> non-Western location for 2016 right now. It would more specifically allow
>>> for a sort of sustainability plan to emerge. I would also vote against
>>> London not because I don't like it (quite the contrary!) but because Berlin
>>> is way cheaper in terms of everyday activities and accommodation. Lastly,
>>> you could also bootstrap some mapping of who has more troubles going to
>>> Berlin rather than to London.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents,
>>> Rayna
>>>  On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:35:15 +0100, Rufus Pollock <
>>> rufus.pollock at okfn.org> said:
>>>
>>>     > Also and thoughts on the *specific criteria* by which we should
>>>     > evaluate location options?
>>>
>>> In addition to the venue itself:
>>>
>>>   - A place with a humane immigration apparatus so as to allow people
>>>     wishing to attend to do so with as little barrier as possible and
>>>     that treats them with resepect as they cross borders.
>>>
>>>   - Also a place where good food and decent accommodation is available
>>>     at as low a cost as possible.
>>>
>>> In my opinion the first criterion could well do with being extended
>>> beyond those attending and meetings should not be scheduled in places
>>> with generally discriminatory immigration policies. Sadly that means
>>> most of Europe, but if it must be Europe we can pick the best of a bad
>>> lot.
>>>
>>> -w
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>>
>> --
>> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom)
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