[OKFN-EN] UK Census - public toilet data

[Rufus Pollock]

First, a big welcome Gail. This is a really interesting project.

On 27 March 2014 12:39, Gail Ramster <gail.ramster at network.rca.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi
> I've made a list of all the councils that provide open data about
> their public toilets, with links and the format that each is it, as part of
> our project to map toilets, but I don't think toilets are part of the
> census. Is there anything useful that I could do with this? I remember the
> idea of a topical census been mentioned, could this be a candidate?
>

In fact toilets were considered a candidate for the city census but didn't
make it in as a standalone dataset to the current list of 15. I do note
that one could consider them under "Public Facilities" which is defined as:
"Location information about various Public facilities such as schools,
parks, hospitals, daycare etc". This is a somewhat flexible category (not
perfect) and one could consider toilets under there (though perhaps with
other key information).

It is also possible for us to add new datasets to the census - the only
challenge is a) UX (we run out of space on the front page!) b) we run the
risk of suddenly adding lots of different datasets. (We could run a
specific topical census too - what would be the topic? Perhaps it could
focus on key locational information (?)).

Even if we didn't add this is a *really* interesting and useful dataset and
great example of civic data in action - and at the very least we could
perhaps start a UK Local Data section on http://datahub.io/ for info like
this.

Rufus


>
> Best wishes
> Gail
>
> On 26 Mar 2014, at 19:20, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 25 March 2014, Shane Mitchell <mitch_shane at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Rufus,
>>
>> Actually that's a can of worms on what is missing. You also don't have
>> Truro, which is a city and the capital of Cornwall.
>>
>
> Very true. The first pass list of cities was, I think, just a list of all
> cities in the UK with more than 200k population.
>
>
>> Also, several places are towns. So, why not places like Eastbourne (100k
>> population).
>> There I have been asking the questions about open data, to which the
>> council leader looks like i'm talking French.
>>
>
> that's great! (that you are asking questions). I guess my concern here is
> that we could systematically add all towns >= 100k but we'd end up with a
> lot of cities (my guess is ~200 (?)). I'd prefer we add one by one as we
> have people who are interested in looking up the data for those cities.
>
>
>> Happy to try to populate the data for there though, to prove my point to
>> the council, that it is a phenomena that is happening :)
>>
>
> That would be great. Would you like Eastbourne added?
>
> Rufus
>
>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Tue, 25/3/14, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Subject: Re: [OKFN-EN] Lincoln missing from UK cities census
>>  To: "Alex Bilbie" <hello at alexbilbie.com>
>>  Cc: "okfn-en at lists.okfn.org" <okfn-en at lists.okfn.org>
>>  Date: Tuesday, 25 March, 2014, 16:10
>>
>>  Hi Alex,
>>  You're quite right that it was missing and
>>  that is now fixed! Given your enquiry, would you be
>>  interested in helping to complete Lincoln's entries :-)
>>  ?
>>
>>  Rufus
>>
>>  On 24 March 2014
>>  16:23, Alex Bilbie <hello at alexbilbie.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>
>>  The UK cities census (http://gb-city.census.okfn.org/)
>>  is missing Lincoln as a city.
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Alex
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