[okfn-help] list setup

[James Casbon]

On 9 February 2010 17:47, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
> On 9 February 2010 17:37, James Casbon <casbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9 February 2010 17:04, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>> On 9 February 2010 16:02, James Casbon <casbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ok, I am getting thoroughly p**sed at the number of bounce
>>>> notifications I am getting.  This is configurable by list managers and
>>>> therefore there is no need for this trash.
>>>>
>>>> Who has permission to properly configure mailman notifications?
>>>
>>> You do :)  -- as do I (mailman admin password is standard one)! If you
>>> can tell me what config vars you want set differently please say and
>>> I/we can implement them -- i have already gone through and tried to
>>> set defaults to get rid of as much stuff as possible.
>>
>> OK I think this is happening - spams are being sent to the list
>> owners, and bounced.  These bounce emails are then delivered to
>> mailman-bounces.
>
> I'm not sure about this -- mails to the list from non-members are
> discarded for precisely this reason. I think it must be more subtle!

But the spams are going to the list *owners* and then being bounced.

>> Now I'm not sure where mailman-bounces is defined and how my email is
>> in that, but one way to fix it is to remove me.
>
> I think it is because: list-admin at okfn ... -> sysadmin@ ...
>
>> Is spam filtering enabled on lists.okfn.org? The relevant part of the
>> config seems to be missing.
>> This guy seems to have a method for the list owners:
>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2007-October/058617.html
>
> No we're not because:
>
> a) only list members can post to the list (so spam is rarely a problem
> for list members)
> b) most people have good spam stuff on their own system courtesy of their MTA
> c) spamasassin has been a PITA to set up (this was 3 years ago) and
> has a tendency to use lots lots of resources ...