[okfn-hu] public code for government transparency

Thu May 12 09:10:36 UTC 2011

Thanks, Miklós,  this makes sense. 
"in phase two the really interesting part will be when we'll include
fetched public procurement transaction information as relationships
(lines) between the actors with actual transaction values in forint or
other currency."
 According to the latest news, see the March 25 Government Decree,
public procurement  data will be classified if  state security applies, 
I wonder how this  will effect  the quantity of accessible data?

Cheers,

Gabriella

.

>>> Béky Miklós<miklos.beky at gmail.com> 5/11/2011 11:48 AM >>>
Dear Gabrialle,

regarding full datasets: when we started to fetch more historical
data, the result was that almost everyone is connected to everyone :)
seriously: the number of relationships grow exponentially compared to
the amount of source data, and from press data we've got a lot, that
why we decided to track only actual infos and not all historical data
for years.

nodes are: people, organizations, litigations represented by different
shapes (cirlces, squares, traingles). relationships between them are
represented by lines. the thickness of the lines show the weight of
the given relationship (litigations could be attached to several kind
of relationships, but there is no data in, so you won't see it.)

it is possible to setup any kind of one- or two-way relationship
between the actors (people and people, orgs and orgs and of cource
orgs and people. If the system finds overlaps (trivia: if two people
as employees worked at the same time at the same org, then they are
"colleagues" that will be automatically discovered) then it builds
these calculated relationships too giving them the average weigth of
the source relationships' weight.

currently the system fetches press info from k-monitor.hu hourly,
based on that the system shows the relationships and the map of the
actors as it could bee seen from the press.

in phase two the really interesting part will be when we'll include
fetched public procurement transaction information as relationships
(lines) between the actors with actual transaction values in forint or
other currency.

the types of the relationships are written on the lines themselves.

the weight info of the sources and types of relationships will be
possibly eliminated at the beginning (that means set to 1) since
analyzers suggested that they could possibly work better with raw
data. We'll see, we need more manual data to decide.

i don't know what further general analytical tools would be useful, we
will definitely need filtering options on the visualization to show
less and selected data on the graph

did I answer all your questions?

greets,
Miklós

2011/5/10 Gabriella Ivacs <ivacsg at ceu.hu>:
> Dear Miklos,
>
> this is great, can you show us a mock-up how does this work on full
data
> sets? I tried  to understand that the logic of the visualization, how
do you
> represent that different types of relationship, hierarchy, nodes? Can
you
> show the provenance of the information , levels of trustworthiness
via
> ranking may be?
> are there other analytical functions besides the map?
>
> thanks, Gabriella
>
>>>> Béky Miklós<miklos.beky at gmail.com> 05/10/11 9:10 PM >>>
> 2011/5/10 stef <stefan.marsiske at gmail.com>:
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:04:05PM +0200, Béky Miklós wrote:
>>> We just made available the source code for hazaitop phase one, or
the
>>> so called k-monitor's Who Is Who project under CC BY-SA:
>>> http://github.com/ikko/hazaitop
>>
>> awesome!!! except, the CC is not for software, afaik this is a
webservice
>> so
>> i'd advise considering the AGPLv3.
>>
>>
>>
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html
>
> thank you :) i will read them through
>
>>
>>> I know it's not data, it's processing, however it may be related
to
>>> this list, especially if this project could be localized within
other
>>> EU countries or possibl
y anywhere else in the world.
>>>
>>> Should you know anyone who could be interested in pushing this
>>> forward, please let me know!
>>
>> is there a short english pitch what hazaitop is and does?
>>
>
> Yes, there is:
>
> Major anti-corruption NGOs of Hungary, HCLU, K-Monitor and
> Transparency International Hungary have decided to develop a
database
> that makes the elite’s networks and the spending of taxpayer’s money
> transparent, easily searchable and analyzable. The database will
> spread information about the winners of public procurements and
other
> tenders (EU and national funds), and presents to the public who are
> behind these companies and what are the relationships between them.
>
> Based on the idea of popular community sites, the project intends to
> elaborate the first electronic „who is who” and network map of the
> Hungarian policy-making and economic elite, and make a research
based
> on the received information. We intend to develop a new site and
> database that contains all the necessary and relevant information
> about Hungarian politicians, policy-makers, business people and
> companies as well as the connections and transactions between them.
> The three NGOs intend to make a database and a network map that
makes
> decisions of public bodies on various alternatives of law-making,
> granting public procurements, tenders, and privatization procedures
> searchable, analyzable and transparent.
>
>
>
>> --
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