[Okfn-irl] Next Steps for OGP in Ireland?

Fri Jan 17 10:24:53 UTC 2014

Hi everyone,

in order to move forward with the next steps in relation to the first Irish
OGP Action Plan OKF Ireland are working on a response to DPER's email to
Nat O'Connor from Dec. 5th 2013. We are looking to finalize the response by
EOD Monday and are inviting you to co-create one response from civil
society.

You can do so by adding your comments, thoughts, ideas to the attached
Google Doc indicating your name and/or affiliation.

Let me know if there are any questions.

 Irish OGP Action
Plan<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R8Jde-rtn1lZYvx_PJjoeEKP_yHrhKskuTf1DGQ1Rx4/edit?usp=drive_web>

 Next Steps for OGP in Ireland
051213.pdf<https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzOXYk-Wh9M2MmdydDRNNWdDWER0MGxXaTg3UzJtVERxTndN/edit?usp=drive_web>

Best Regards,

Flora Fleischer

Co-Founder, OKF Ireland

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On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Beausang, William <
William.Beausang at per.gov.ie> wrote:

>  Dear Nat,
>
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> Sorry, we should certainly have made the point you mention below in our
> reply to Denis; we had in fact expected that we would have been able to
> make the announcement on the regional conference at an earlier stage and
> certainly before the Christmas break.
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> Hopefully any confusion caused by us not doing so has been cleared up.
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>
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> Kind Regards,
>
>
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> William
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> William Beausang
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> Head of Government Reform Unit and Civil Service HR Policy Division
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> Department of Public Expenditure and Reform
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> 7/9 Merrion Row
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> Dublin 2
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> Ireland
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> Tel. +353 1 6045433
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> Mob. +353 86 1729303
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> *From:* Nat O'Connor [mailto:noconnor at tasc.ie]
> *Sent:* 08 January 2014 12:50
> *To:* McCann, Conor; 'Denis Parfenov'
>
> *Cc:* open-data-ireland at googlegroups.com;
> open-government-ireland at googlegroups.com; okfn-irl at lists.okfn.org;
> admin at ogpireland.ie; Martinez, Claire; 'Nat O'Connor'; Beausang, William;
> O'Connor, Evelyn
> *Subject:* RE: Next Steps for OGP in Ireland?
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> Dear Denis and Conor,
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>
> Just to add, I didn’t circulate the initial reply to my letter at the
> time, as the Department was waiting for the Minister’s public announcement
> of the Europe Regional Meeting and asked that the response not be
> circulated until then.
>
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> I would add to Denis’s enthusiasm, as I think the Regional Meeting will be
> a great showcase for OGP and will hopefully lead to increased public
> enthusiasm and interest for open government.
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>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Nat
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>
>
>
>
> *From:* McCann, Conor [mailto:Conor.McCann at per.gov.ie<Conor.McCann at per.gov.ie>]
>
> *Sent:* 08 January 2014 09:58
> *To:* Denis Parfenov
> *Cc:* open-data-ireland at googlegroups.com;
> open-government-ireland at googlegroups.com; <okfn-irl at lists.okfn.org>;
> admin at ogpireland.ie; Martinez, Claire; Nat O'Connor; Beausang, William;
> O'Connor, Evelyn
> *Subject:* RE: Next Steps for OGP in Ireland?
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>
>
> Dear Denis,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your email, and for bringing our attention to the
> establishment of the OGP Ireland ‘Crowdhall’. We will take note of any
> recommendations that emerge from the group.
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> Regarding Nat O’Connor’s letter, please see the attached email, which
> contains our response to Nat – issued on December 5.
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Conor
>
>
>
> *From:* denis.parfenov at gmail.com [mailto:denis.parfenov at gmail.com<denis.parfenov at gmail.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Denis Parfenov
> *Sent:* 08 January 2014 08:48
> *To:* McCann, Conor
> *Cc:* open-data-ireland at googlegroups.com;
> open-government-ireland at googlegroups.com; <okfn-irl at lists.okfn.org>;
> admin at ogpireland.ie; Martinez, Claire; Nat O'Connor; Beausang, William
> *Subject:* Re: Next Steps for OGP in Ireland?
>
>
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> **Apologies for any cross-posting**
>
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>
> Dear Conor,
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>
>
> Once again, thank you for sharing news regarding the plans to hold the OGP
> Europe Regional Meeting<http://per.gov.ie/2014/01/06/ireland-to-host-open-government-partnership-ogp-europe-regional-meeting-in-2014/>in Dublin in May 2013. I believe we have a fantastic opportunity to
> increase awareness about OGP and opportunities for Open Data in Ireland.
>
>
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> I would like to draw your attention to an absence of response on Nat
> O’Connor’s letter<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/open-government-ireland/x3rsP2DwWq0>dated 22nd November 2013, where an ad-hoc group of civil society members
> outlined a suggested way forward in terms of the collaboration between
> government and civil society on the development of the first Irish National
> Action plan.
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>
>
> Also, I would like to bring to your attention that at the meeting between
> DPER and representatives of civil society on June 26th<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/open-government-ireland/3XxjHe22aJo>we discussed the importance of public deliberation online. Subsequently, we
> looked at suitability of four platforms<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/open-government-ireland/3XxjHe22aJo>suggested by the OGP and Global Integrity and established that
> http://crowdhall.com/ is the most adequate for us. As a result we have
> set up an instance of ‘Crowdhall’ specifically for the Irish OGP
> consultation process: http://crowdhall.com/h/52
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>
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> This platform can be useful for the public online deliberation of the
> 62+10 <http://per.gov.ie/open-government-partnership-ogp/> suggestions
> generated during the initial consultation process that took place between
> July and September 2013. Crowdhall allows for the generation of a unique
> URL for each one of the action plan items.  This can facilitate a public
> deliberation on each commitment online and an ability for civil society to
> rate and rank commitments.
>  For example, Fingal County Council: Submission to Open Government
> Partnership Ireland Consultation: https://crowdhall.com/h/52/p/402 (tweet:
> https://twitter.com/opengovIRL/status/420663295754792960)
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> I hope this is helpful.
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> Best regards,
>
>
> Denis Parfenov
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>
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> On 22 November 2013 15:19, Nat O'Connor <natoconnor at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Nat O'Connor* <noconnor at tascnet.ie>
> Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM
> Subject: Next Steps for OGP in Ireland?
> To: "Beausang, William(William.Beausang at per.gov.ie)" <
> William.Beausang at per.gov.ie>
> Cc: admin at ogpireland.ie, communications at ogpireland.ie,
> okfn-irl at lists.okfn.org, open-data-ireland at googlegroups.com,
> open-government-ireland at googlegroups.com, "evelyn.o'connor at per.gov.ie" <
> evelyn.o'connor at per.gov.ie>, "Martinez, Claire" <
> Claire.Martinez at per.gov.ie>, "McCann, Conor" <Conor.McCann at per.gov.ie>
>
> *William Beausang*
>
> *Head of Government Reform Unit and Civil Service HR Policy Division *
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> *Department of Public Expenditure and Reform*
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> *CC various mailing lists *
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> *BCC (private) 43 individual email addresses of interested people*
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> *Apologies for any cross-posting*
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> Dear William,
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>
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> Further to the meeting between members of civil society and your team
> (October 25th), where
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> it was suggested that we propose a process to inform your unit’s
> submission to a Government meeting before late November. I’m conscious that
> time is pressing on this.
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>
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> At our discussion at the October meeting, I recall that a potential
> impasse was identified. Civil society has put forward 71 recommended
> actions; however the Government has yet to put forward their own list of
> proposed actions, derived from the Programme for Government and from civil
> service suggestions from the relevant Departments. We risk getting bogged
> down if either side wants to stick to their preferred list and go through
> each item one after the other in exhaustive detail.
>
>
>
> You noted that the national OGP Action Plans are meant to be short
> documents and you suggested that we begin the Irish Action Plan with a
> higher level narrative text, informed by both lists of proposed actions.
> Out of this higher level text, we would then derive a set of SMART actions
> for the first plan. These would differ in detail from some of the proposals
> from either side, but they would hopefully address a large number of them
> and provide a basis for substantive progress on some of the OGP goals. (I
> would add, this should not close down further discussion on any proposals
> from civil society).
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>
>
> Based on this, the following is a suggestion from me. I benefited from
> feedback by email from the various colleagues but any remaining
> errors/omissions are my own:
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> *Proposed Process for Civil Society and Government Joint Working on
> Ireland’s OGP Plan*
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>
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> 1.       We want a process that leads to a jointly-drafted Action Plan
> between civil society and Government;
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>
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> 2.       A steering group drawn from civil society needs to be
> established to provide continuity of contact between wider civil society
> and the Government. We need a small number of volunteers to commit to
> attending a regular number of meetings between now and April 2014, to
> engage with the Government on jointly-drafting the first Irish Action Plan;
>
>
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> 3.       The Government needs to commit to a series of meetings between
> now and April 2014 to work jointly on the first Irish OGP Action Plan;
>
>
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> 4.       All formal records of the process (e.g. Agendas, Minutes) should
> be posted online in a timely fashion after each meeting, so that wider
> civil society and the general public can access them and monitor the
> process;
>
>
>
> 5.       Members of civil society have been consulted by Transparency
> International Ireland, leading to a report containing 62 recommended
> actions (some of which are multiple actions). Another 9 additional actions
> were submitted in parallel to this process, leading to a total of 71 civil
> society proposed actions (some of which have multiple aspects to them);
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>
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> 6.       The Government is to produce a list of its own proposed actions
> for inclusion in the OGP Action Plan;
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>
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> 7.       The first meeting of the Joint Government-Civil Society OGP
> Steering Group (hereafter Steering Group) should agree headers for high
> level narrative text within the first Action Plan – drawing on experience
> from other countries’ plans;
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>
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> 8.       These headers should be elaborated with text that accurately
> reflects the diverse ideas and the overall direction of travel indicated in
> the TI report of the civil society consultations. It should equally
> represent the Programme for Government/civil service proposals;
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>
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> 9.       Based on the high level text, subsequent meetings of the
> Steering Group should agree SMART actions to be included in the first
> Action Plan;
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>
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> 10.   A draft Action Plan should then be published with sufficient time
> for wider civil society and the general public to make comments and
> suggestions;
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> 11.   The joint Steering Group than should meet to agree the final plan
> text for submission to the OGP Summit in April.
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>
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> 12.   Periodic meetings of the joint Steering Group should continue to
> monitor progress on the plan, and prepare for its renewal.
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>
>
> Come April 2014, no one is likely to be perfectly happy with the resultant
> Action Plan, however I would hope that it would lead to the best possible
> compromise and provide a solid basis to see some new open government
> actions implemented that go beyond what was anticipated in the Programme
> for Government.
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>
>
> Likewise, I would hope that the process would provide a basis for working
> together and with Government on open government that would be sustainable
> throughout the lifetime of the plan.
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>
>
> There is already work ongoing to form a series of thematic working groups
> (following similar topics to the ones being formed at international level
> in OGP) and other existing groups (e.g. Aarhus Roadshow) could be seen as
> relevant stakeholders equivalent to working groups too, so that everyone
> interested in a given topic has an opportunity to voice their suggestions
> and concerns between meetings of the Steering Group. Facilitating this and
> attending relevant working groups would be an additional commitment
> required of anyone volunteering to join the Steering Group.
>
>
>
> As you know, two significant things have occurred subsequently to our
> October meeting. Firstly, some civil society people attended the two-day
> global Open Government Partnership summit in London (31st Oct/1st Nov),
> which was preceded for those who could attend by civil society meetings and
> open data meetings earlier in the week. Secondly, there has been a major
> public dispute about FOI fees and a real risk that the amended FOI Act will
> increase the barriers to FOI usage through higher costs associated with
> non-personal FOI requests, which runs counter to the goals of the OGP.
>
>
>
> The summit provided lots of useful information and examples of how OGP is
> working in other countries; the pitfalls as well as the success stories. It
> was good to see your colleagues Evelyn O’Connor and Claire Martinez there.
> I heard Minister Howlin speak supportively about OGP at the European Caucus
> and when addressing the panel on whistleblower protection. There seems to
> be a vibrant international movement for OGP – but one limited by resources
> and still in its fragile early stages.
>
>
>
> In relation to the dispute about FOI up-front fees, I would be remiss if I
> didn’t say that many activists are angry and feel a lack of trust, which
> extends in some cases to the wider OGP process. I personally believe that
> up-front FOI fees are a barrier to democratic participation and should be
> abolished.
>
>
>
> But OGP is about more than FOI, and it is important that Ireland puts in
> place a robust process for civil society engagement with Government about
> our first OGP Action Plan, and its implementation and annual renewal. This
> process should be solid enough to permit us to have a serious debate with
> Government about the merits and demerits of FOI fees, without allowing this
> issue to block further progress on the other 70 proposed actions from the
> OGP consultancy process.
>
>
>
> I hope this proposal is of use in moving things forward. I would welcome
> your comments on it and I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Nat
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