[okfn-za] okfn-za Digest, Vol 19, Issue 12

Fri May 3 11:10:08 UTC 2013

Alternatively, I work with Tobais Schonwetter with CCSA. He's our
legal lead and current head of UCT IP Law Unit

Tobias Schonwetter <tobias at creativecommons.org>

K
Kelsey Wiens
Cape Town, South Africa

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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM,  <okfn-za-request at lists.okfn.org> wrote:
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> Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 13:50:40 +0100
> From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> Subject: Re: [okfn-za] okfn-za Digest, Vol 19, Issue 8
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> Hi Kelsey,
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> Just to add to Adi's comments: could you get sample data into an e.g.
> google docs spreadsheet (and share the link)? You could probably do
> quite a lot with this directly plus it would give a clearer idea of
> what the data looks like.
>
> Rufus
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> On 2 May 2013 09:54, Kelsey Wiens <kelseywiens at gmail.com> wrote:
>> just to add on Leon's thoughts. Would be brilliant to have a teacher
>> abstantee tracking as well. For the students to notify when their
>> teacher isn't available to teach that day. A visual representation of
>> that issue would be really helpful.
>>
>> Could overlay that with broken toilets, and other infrastructures breakdowns.
>>
>> Also think we need to start thinking about some sort of timeline when
>> it comes to Educations in SA. I've just finished a study on Primary
>> School edu in South Africa and found it extremely difficult to tell
>> the story of the breakdowns in SA education. I'm happy to roll with
>> this (and my current findings) if someone with smarter developer
>> smarty-pants can help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelsey Wiens
>> Cape Town, South Africa
>>
>> Mobile:     +27 (72) 438 5095
>> Skype:      kelseylwiens
>> About.me: http://about.me/kelseywiens
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>> ?Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.? ?Mark Twain
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> Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 15:39:57 +0200
> From: Arthur Attwell <arthur at arthurattwell.com>
> Subject: Re: [okfn-za] Please Sue Me
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> On 2013/05/02 01:00 PM, okfn-za-request at lists.okfn.org wrote:
>> Also, legal advice would be welcome, I'm going out on
>> a limb at the moment, probably fool-hardy and given Leon and
>> Geoffrey's comments, possibly a little too impulsive. It would be good
>> to have a professional give some thought to the practicalities of how
>> to implement this which wouldn't end up costing me a million rand in
>> legal bills.
>>
>> Adi
>
> I'm late to this discussion and may have missed something. Plus, I'm NOT
> a lawyer. The best person to ask about this is probably Andrew Rens at
> andrew at opencounsel.net (http://aliquidnovi.org/about-2/).
>
> The South African Copyright Act excludes from copyright any "official
> texts of a legislative, administrative or legal nature". So the question
> I suppose is what counts as an "official text". At Paperight, for
> example, we've chosen to treat all past matric exam papers as official
> administrative texts, so that we can distribute them at low cost through
> our member outlets. Might a generous interpretation include data sets as
> well? Given that the act was written in 1978 and last amended in 2002 (I
> believe), it's unlikely the authors were thinking about digital formats
> at the time, and texts may well have included administrative statistics
> documents.
>
> Unfortunately, I suspect would only be settled if someone did sue, and
> there was a court decision about it.
>
> Arthur
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