[okfn-za] Please Sue Me

[Justin Arenstein]

Hi.

I agree with Rufus. In the interim, all the projects that my programme
supports will continue scraping & posting public interest data on
AfricaOpenData.org (which will soon migrate to the new openAFRICA.net
domain).

Rufus, can you point the folk at OI, who manage the repository, to
appropriate model takedown policies so that we can include them on the site?

Cheers,
Justin

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On 7 May 2013 19:38, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:

> Sounds sensible. But in the mean time why don't we start scraping the
> relevant datasets and making them available on africaopendata.org? (We
> can and should have an appropriate takedown to protect if people are
> concerned).
>
> Rufus
>
>
> On 6 May 2013 20:10, Adi Eyal <adi at burgercom.co.za> wrote:
>
>> I've given the project a lot of thought and listened to comments both
>> on- and off-list. I think that this crusade might be a little
>> premature. Rather than going out guns blazing, it might be worthwhile
>> to create a dialogue through another approach, perhaps a series of
>> op-eds with rights to respond in an influential newspaper. I still
>> strongly believe in the principle of the matter but perhaps this
>> approach might close more doors than it opens. Also, if it goes to
>> court, it may stall movement in the open data space for a number of
>> years which would be counter-productive.
>>
>> Of course, if anyone else wants to pick it up, they are welcome to
>> everything I have put into it so far (domain name, website, hosting,
>> etc) but I think that it makes better sense to get traction using a
>> slighter less confrontational approach.
>>
>> Regardless of whether this project is implemented or not, I was very
>> glad to see the amount of traffic that it generated on the various
>> mailing lists. The number of people contributing to the discussion was
>> encouraging. Hopefully we can build on that momentum to create a much
>> more active community.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Adi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 May 2013 14:24, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>> > On 2 May 2013 10:56, Adi Eyal <adi at burgercom.co.za> wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >>> Right now we need a web site!
>> >>
>> >> I've put one up - have a look at: http://www.pleasesueme.co.za. It
>> >
>> > Great work on the site!
>> >
>> >> really is a starting point, the copy is embarrassing and the site only
>> >> has three datasets but hopefully it's a start. Anyone who wants to
>> >> jump in and make any improvements, copy, logo design, data collection
>> >> etc is welcome. Also, legal advice would be welcome, I'm going out on
>> >> a limb at the moment, probably fool-hardy and given Leon and
>> >> Geoffrey's comments, possibly a little too impulsive. It would be good
>> >> to have a professional give some thought to the practicalities of how
>> >> to implement this which wouldn't end up costing me a million rand in
>> >> legal bills.
>> >
>> > I've booted a gdoc where we can work on copy etc.
>> >
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/document/d/1y1wQcW9WogwFy0GDGVnZTixUfonzNCHvSGw77675Wik/edit#
>> >
>> > We can work on the copy there and start listing more datasets to
>> > include. (I guess we should add them to http://africaopendata.org/ at
>> > the same time!).
>> >
>> > Also we can prepare an announce post for http://za.okfn.org/ and
>> > elsewhere - we can reuse quite a bit of your intro email :-) (I think
>> > this is a great project for OKFN South Africa Local Group to be
>> > involved so no problem blogging and supporting it!)
>> >
>> > Re legal Arthur has made a good suggestion re Andrew Rens. If you need
>> > any help getting in contact let me know!
>> >
>> > Rufus
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Adi Eyal
>> Data Specialist
>> phone: +27 78 014 2469
>> skype: adieyalcas
>> linkedin: http://za.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Adi/Eyal
>>
>
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