[Open-access] How to cite the Panton Principles?

Tue Feb 21 18:09:24 UTC 2012

At least part of what Klaus is saying seems to be an easy fix.

How about:
Panton Principles, Principles for open data in science. Murray-Rust, Peter;
Neylon, Cameron; Pollock, Rufus; Wilbanks, John. (19 Feb 2010). Retrieved
[insert date] from http://pantonprinciples.org/

Would everyone be happy with that?

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Klaus Graf <klausgraf at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Let me be absolutely clear:
>
> (i) The Panton principles have exactly the same value for scholarship
> which isn't Science = STM.
>
> As humanities scholar I cannot accept the idea that research and
> science are the same thing. Fortunately German Wissenschaft means
> both: arts/humanities and science.
>
> (ii) Citations guidelines valid only for Science are not acceptable.
>
> There are enough disciplines with full first name standard. You cannot
> identfiy something with personal IDs like PND etc. with first name
> initals. I think it is bibliographically - open bibliography! -
> important enough to know WHO wrote an article. "Pollock R" is saying
> absolutely nothing - one has to do additional research to find out who
> is R[ ] Pollock.
>
> (iii) As is there is anglo-centric thinking that only contributions in
> the English language have ontological value there is also STM-centric
> thinking.
>
> Sorry for repeating this.
>
> Klaus
>
>
>
> 2012/2/21 Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com>:
> >> This should be made into an FAQ I think
> >
> > yes and
> >
> >> it's probably unnecessary to have it on the main page...
> >
> > yes.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks - will be interesting to track the citation rate through
> > the next few years,
> >
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thanks Laura!
> >>
> >> So something like:
> >>
> >> The Panton Principles may be cited using the following details in the
> >> relevant citation style for your publication:
> >> Murray-Rust P, Neylon C, Pollock R, Wilbanks J (19 Feb 2010). Panton
> >> Principles, Principles for open data in science. Retrieved [insert date]
> >> from http://pantonprinciples.org/
> >>
> >> or the title could come first as Cameron suggested, does anyone have a
> >> specific preference? 19 Feb 2010 is the date PP were announced on the
> OKF
> >> blog.
> >>
> >> This should be made into an FAQ I think, it's probably unnecessary to
> have
> >> it on the main page...
> >>
> >> Jenny
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have administrative access to the Panton Principles website. If you
> let
> >>> me know what you want and where, I can put it up :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM, <koltzenburg at w4w.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jenny asked:
> >>>>
> >>>> > How does Cameron's suggestion sound to everyone?
> >>>>
> >>>> sounds fine to me,
> >>>>
> >>>> > getting something standardised up as soon as possible is probably
> >>>> a good thing to do!
> >>>>
> >>>> agree :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it might also be a good idea to add a date on the site, e.g.
> in
> >>>> this line:
> >>>>
> >>>> Authored on [date] by:
> >>>>
> >>>> > I think this issue has been raised before for both PP and the OKD,
> but
> >>>> clearly nothing ended up going on the website :)
> >>>>
> >>>> so let's see if anything happens this time,
> >>>> Jenny, let me check, are we talking to the right people here?
> >>>>
> >>>> cheers,
> >>>> Claudia
> >>>>
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> >>>
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