[Open-access] How to cite the Panton Principles?

[Klaus Graf]

This is fine.

Please note: You can easyly truncate a full first name to get a
science-conform citation but you cannot enrich an initial without
knowing the person. I wonder whether the problem of author ids and
science-"initialism" (have I invented that word?) has played any role
in the discussion on open bibliography until now. On social networks
like Mendeley persons are not known in the "C Neylon" style.

Klaus
find my author IDs and profiles at the right side of
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117546351384071338747/about

2012/2/21 Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org>:
> At least part of what Klaus is saying seems to be an easy fix.
>
> How about:
> Panton Principles, Principles for open data in science. Murray-Rust, Peter;
> Neylon, Cameron; Pollock, Rufus; Wilbanks, John. (19 Feb 2010). Retrieved
> [insert date] from http://pantonprinciples.org/
>
> Would everyone be happy with that?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Klaus Graf <klausgraf at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Let me be absolutely clear:
>>
>> (i) The Panton principles have exactly the same value for scholarship
>> which isn't Science = STM.
>>
>> As humanities scholar I cannot accept the idea that research and
>> science are the same thing. Fortunately German Wissenschaft means
>> both: arts/humanities and science.
>>
>> (ii) Citations guidelines valid only for Science are not acceptable.
>>
>> There are enough disciplines with full first name standard. You cannot
>> identfiy something with personal IDs like PND etc. with first name
>> initals. I think it is bibliographically - open bibliography! -
>> important enough to know WHO wrote an article. "Pollock R" is saying
>> absolutely nothing - one has to do additional research to find out who
>> is R[ ] Pollock.
>>
>> (iii) As is there is anglo-centric thinking that only contributions in
>> the English language have ontological value there is also STM-centric
>> thinking.
>>
>> Sorry for repeating this.
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/2/21 Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com>:
>> >> This should be made into an FAQ I think
>> >
>> > yes and
>> >
>> >> it's probably unnecessary to have it on the main page...
>> >
>> > yes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Many thanks - will be interesting to track the citation rate through
>> > the next few years,
>> >
>> >
>> > Ross
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Thanks Laura!
>> >>
>> >> So something like:
>> >>
>> >> The Panton Principles may be cited using the following details in the
>> >> relevant citation style for your publication:
>> >> Murray-Rust P, Neylon C, Pollock R, Wilbanks J (19 Feb 2010). Panton
>> >> Principles, Principles for open data in science. Retrieved [insert
>> >> date]
>> >> from http://pantonprinciples.org/
>> >>
>> >> or the title could come first as Cameron suggested, does anyone have a
>> >> specific preference? 19 Feb 2010 is the date PP were announced on the
>> >> OKF
>> >> blog.
>> >>
>> >> This should be made into an FAQ I think, it's probably unnecessary to
>> >> have
>> >> it on the main page...
>> >>
>> >> Jenny
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have administrative access to the Panton Principles website. If you
>> >>> let
>> >>> me know what you want and where, I can put it up :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM, <koltzenburg at w4w.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jenny asked:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > How does Cameron's suggestion sound to everyone?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> sounds fine to me,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > getting something standardised up as soon as possible is probably
>> >>>> a good thing to do!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> agree :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think it might also be a good idea to add a date on the site, e.g.
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> this line:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Authored on [date] by:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > I think this issue has been raised before for both PP and the OKD,
>> >>>> > but
>> >>>> clearly nothing ended up going on the website :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> so let's see if anything happens this time,
>> >>>> Jenny, let me check, are we talking to the right people here?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cheers,
>> >>>> Claudia
>> >>>>
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